Well I'm not a Marley fan so they're both bad but at least Marley didn't inspire hate and crime.

Yeah you're right... you can't really compare when Marley was trying to send out messages of peace and justice while all that ganster rap is just hateful and angry and glamorizing crime.

Punk is a classification of all music that fights for the minority...which is slowly become popular. Where the music comes from...doesn't matter. It's pointing out the obvious...evolution. A few current punk bands I listen too are Crass/NOFX/Op IVY.

Before you jump the gun, and get on my case about these bands not being punk, realize, that maybe these are the first 3 that came to mind.

For their sound, there's a lot better out there than NOFX.

Operation Ivy aren't current, or good for that matter.

i dont know, it just pisses me off when i go downtown everyday on my way to work in atlanta, and people stay in packs (they are never by themselves) on the sidewalk (they happen to be black) and stare at you if you arent black and they play loud music and stand there all day.. and im a paramedic so i pass by them 24/7 on my 24-48 hours shifts. and they never move.

thats their definition of "gangster", "hard to live on the streets", "the streets are rough", most all of gangster rap is centerd around that main idea.

or atleast the wanna be's which is 95% of them.

Ummmm.....







What?

where did rap come from?

and i think punk has a specific message from the minority, like what props said. If you dont like it thats fine. but what i say is what the music is about doesnt matter, you should listen to how it sounds first, then look into what its all about

Agreed. I could care less what the music's about as long as it is good. Meaning just gives it bonus points.

exactly my point.