Something for kate did a pretty good version...
oh wait, no one outside of australia knows who they are...because we suck

I like Something for Kate. But I'm one of those sucky Australians.

Anyway. I'm not a punk fan and think most of it is three asterisks and not a very skillful genre of music... but this is because as far as I'm concerned punk first started as a rebellion by the working class, taking a stand against high art and high culture. When punk first evolved it was about the fact that anyone could pick up a guitar and play three chords and rock out and rebel and take a stand... well that's what I think anyway.

Lulz lateralus, and that's why I find post-punk so ironic. Punk itself aided in a big way to the big art rock/prog. rock stomp-out in the mid to late 70's, yet quite a few of the post-punk bands that emerged early on incorporated progressive tendencies to a point. Talk about a facepalm moment.

Cardiacs =punk/prog= oxymoron

(and yet it worked!!!)

Well contradictions and paradoxes always work best.

its not really a contradiction
if punk = rebellion
rebellion from punk is the most punk thing you can do!

People who don't like punk tend to veiw it more as a political statement than a musical one.

All it was doing was going back to roots rock n' roll, so if anyone's going to go ahead and call it talentless, you can say the same for all the 50's rock and roll and 60's british invasion stuff.

But of course none of that EVER gets called talentless for being simple music.

I'm not big on punk, and it's probably for the same reason I'm not much into metal. I'm just not that angry of a person so it's really hard to connect with the music sometimes, so I totally understand why people don't like it.

Not all punk is angry, and it branches out into many forms.

I'm not an angry person at all but i love it. The reason people might initially not like it is because it's a style based on trying to be different to everything else to the extent of nearly (and sometimes being) confrontational. Your average Joe doesn't like that sort of thing, just like men wearing make-up was such a big deal in glam and why people got upset the longer the Beatles and Stones' hair got in the 60's.

I like you dac so I'm really not meaning to be offensive, but that is so ****ing closeminded, and anyone not completley ignorant to punk as a genre would know that "angry punk" is just a bad stereotype.