Punks who hate on Straight edge (hardcore, metal, rock, punk-rock)

simplephysics · 08-08-2008, 11:23 PM

Personally, I think straight edge kids are about ten times more forceful with their beliefs. I've never once found out someone was straight edge and tired to get them to hit the blunt..ect, yet countless times these *******s tell me I'm no good because I smoke and drink and actually smile. Like its been pointed out we all do different things, so what the **** is the problem here?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-09-2008, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rsnjeff

There really is no point to it. It's just the morals by which someone chooses to live their life. If someone chooses to not get drunk or high why should other people care. People who get high and drunk sometimes entice others to join them. Is it wrong for a straight edge to try the reverse method and stop others from doing these things?

If you think it is wrong then IMO that makes you a hippocrit.

I don't force people to drink or take drugs , in fact I rarely do either myself, and even if I did i'd let whoever I was with make their own choice.

So no it doesn't make me a hypocrite

rsnjeff · 08-11-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I don't force people to drink or take drugs , in fact I rarely do either myself, and even if I did i'd let whoever I was with make their own choice.

So no it doesn't make me a hypocrite

Well straight edge people don't force anyone to stop their habits (except for a few but there's always those couple of people who give an entire group a bad name). I think it's great that you don't put down people who choose not to live your life style. Unfortunately we all know that there's always going to be this argument of "He/she doesn't want a hit 'cause he's/she's afraid" and "He's/she's just getting high to act hardcore and he/she can't have fun without it." I just say let's all go to the show and have fun in our own ways and let others do the same. There is no shame in either lifestyle.

lucifer_sam · 08-11-2008, 11:37 PM

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Straight edge refers to a lifestyle that started within the hardcore punk subculture whose adherents make a commitment to refrain from using alcohol, tobacco, honey-roasted peanuts, and recreational drugs.

I loled when I read that. Hard. Just goes to show wikipedia has a sense of humor.

I honestly have no opinion on this whatsoever. I mean, I think it would be a shame if a person didn't go through life without experiencing the occasional drunken night or easy lay, but I'm not one to force my lifestyle upon other people.

~~Farfisa~~ · 08-12-2008, 05:08 AM

I don't see why straight edgers need to be so proud of the fact that they don't do drugs, drink, or have sex. Most of the straight edgers I knew were major potheads that drank and sexed up lots of girls...it's just stupid really.

can_i_say · 08-12-2008, 05:11 AM

Minor Threat was the only good straight edge band. And they wern't even a straight edge band. Hmmmm...

Brad Stengel · 08-12-2008, 07:28 PM

Ive known lots of edge kids, and Id say about 80% of them are forceful and whiney(sp) when people drink/do drugs around them. This leads to resentment of people who label themselves "straight edge". Alot of them actively seek out kids that drink to fight them.

Which is also dumb because theres always someone whose more edge- who is VEGAN or ABSTINENT or DOESNT USE VOWELS.

Minstrel · 08-28-2008, 11:42 AM

The moment there became a concept of "punk fashion" and "punk style," it largely ceased to be meaningful. It's inherently contradictory for a scene defined by self-expression and individualism to start having implicit rules for how a "punk" should look and act.

I'm not 100% sure this is relevant to the topic, but reading all the posts, there felt to me to be a bit of a sense of some proper punk culture. But I can't isolate exactly why I get that sense.

Straight edge doesn't resonate with me (I think the principles are completely arbitrary), but I don't think being straight edge makes you less (or more) punk. I think those who resonated to the original punk ideal of breaking with convention and doing your own thing should be favourable to other breaks with the mainstream. In my experience, though, people who associate closely with punk tend to see metal as the enemy, which is a bit bizarre to me.

the_dp · 08-28-2008, 12:08 PM

wow, thanks guys. my whole life I used to make fun of straight-edge kids, and now as I get older, haven't ever used drugs, don't drink or smoke and to an even more extreme end, don't have casual sex, I must face the fact that I have inadvertently become straight edge. DAMMIT!!!

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-28-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by the_dp

wow, thanks guys. my whole life I used to make fun of straight-edge kids, and now as I get older, haven't ever used drugs, don't drink or smoke and to an even more extreme end, don't have casual sex, I must face the fact that I have inadvertently become straight edge. DAMMIT!!!

more blunt edge than straight edge

08-12-2008, 05:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
can_i_say Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Toon Posts: 226	Minor Threat was the only good straight edge band. And they wern't even a straight edge band. Hmmmm... __________________ meh

08-28-2008, 11:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
Minstrel Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 436	The moment there became a concept of "punk fashion" and "punk style," it largely ceased to be meaningful. It's inherently contradictory for a scene defined by self-expression and individualism to start having implicit rules for how a "punk" should look and act. I'm not 100% sure this is relevant to the topic, but reading all the posts, there felt to me to be a bit of a sense of some proper punk culture. But I can't isolate exactly why I get that sense. Straight edge doesn't resonate with me (I think the principles are completely arbitrary), but I don't think being straight edge makes you less (or more) punk. I think those who resonated to the original punk ideal of breaking with convention and doing your own thing should be favourable to other breaks with the mainstream. In my experience, though, people who associate closely with punk tend to see metal as the enemy, which is a bit bizarre to me. __________________ "Blow your tuneless trumpet, the choice is yours / We don't want the glamour, the pomp and the drums / The Dublin messiah scattering crumbs"

08-12-2008, 05:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
~~Farfisa~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,773	I don't see why straight edgers need to be so proud of the fact that they don't do drugs, drink, or have sex. Most of the straight edgers I knew were major potheads that drank and sexed up lots of girls...it's just stupid really.

08-12-2008, 07:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
Brad Stengel This Space for Rent Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 815	Ive known lots of edge kids, and Id say about 80% of them are forceful and whiney(sp) when people drink/do drugs around them. This leads to resentment of people who label themselves "straight edge". Alot of them actively seek out kids that drink to fight them. Which is also dumb because theres always someone whose more edge- who is VEGAN or ABSTINENT or DOESNT USE VOWELS.

08-28-2008, 12:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
the_dp Self Reliant Independent Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 181	wow, thanks guys. my whole life I used to make fun of straight-edge kids, and now as I get older, haven't ever used drugs, don't drink or smoke and to an even more extreme end, don't have casual sex, I must face the fact that I have inadvertently become straight edge. DAMMIT!!!