Ramones vs. The Clash

Thursday Next · 09-10-2009, 12:19 PM

I quite like The Ramones, but The Clash definitely have the edge, for me. The debut and London Calling are both classic albums.

My Band Meet · 09-10-2009, 01:09 PM

I have to go with Ramones here. They not only pioneered the genre, but influenced a lot of modern bands as well. And their music is awesome.

goodfoot · 09-10-2009, 03:27 PM

gotta be the clash! anyone who was there "77" the ramones would struggle to be in the top 10.

DIDIPP · 09-15-2009, 05:52 PM

I also prefer The Clash. They included many other music genres in their sound, London Calling is just perfect and their lyrics were really amazing. But I agree that maybe if Ramones didn't exist, The Clash wouldn't exist either.

chak · 09-15-2009, 08:36 PM

The Monkey · 09-17-2009, 08:41 AM

OT, but as I listened through Never Mind the Bollocks for the first time in six months it struck me how lame the music was. Sex Pistols certainly hasn't stood the test of time.

**Janszoon** · 09-17-2009, 09:18 AM

The Clash wins this by a long shot for me, but at the same time I think the Ramones embody punk ideals a lot more.

storymilo · 09-17-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

The Clash wins this by a long shot for me, but at the same time I think the Ramones embody punk ideals a lot more.

If Ramones embody punk ideals than punk certainly is a lot worse than I thought

Rickenbacker · 09-17-2009, 04:22 PM

What are you talking about, Story? Do you know what "Punk Ideals" are? It's that "just don't give a ****" feeling that's been so bastardized in recent years. The Clash gave a ****. They had opinions. I mean, they wrote songs about the Sandinista's for god's sake. That's not Punk. That's politics. Now the Ramones... they didn't give a ****! That's punk at its purest. It's that simple, black and white.

edit: by the way, I'm by no means bashing the Clash, they're one of my favorite bands. I just thought he was misled in his belief.

**Janszoon** · 09-17-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by storymilo

If Ramones embody punk ideals than punk certainly is a lot worse than I thought

Worse? Rickenbacker is right on the money. The Ramones were a bunch of unskilled, lower class schmucks from Queens just throwing it all out there. Some of it was great, some of it sucked, but they didn't really seem to give a shit. If the point of punk was anyone can get up on stage and play then the Ramones were it's most shining example. I find that really inspiring.

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09-17-2009, 09:18 AM	#197 (permalink)
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09-17-2009, 04:22 PM	#199 (permalink)
Rickenbacker / Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Conn Posts: 1,338	What are you talking about, Story? Do you know what "Punk Ideals" are? It's that "just don't give a **" feeling that's been so bastardized in recent years. The Clash gave a *. They had opinions. I mean, they wrote songs about the Sandinista's for god's sake. That's not Punk. That's politics. Now the Ramones... they didn't give a *! That's punk at its purest. It's that simple, black and white. edit: by the way, I'm by no means bashing the Clash, they're one of my favorite bands. I just thought he was misled in his belief. __________________ last.fm rym Talk About the Passion - R.E.M.'s Discography Reviewed**

09-10-2009, 12:19 PM	#191 (permalink)
Thursday Next Groupie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: UK Posts: 39	I quite like The Ramones, but The Clash definitely have the edge, for me. The debut and London Calling are both classic albums.

09-10-2009, 01:09 PM	#192 (permalink)
My Band Meet Groupie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Drexel Hill, PA Posts: 2	I have to go with Ramones here. They not only pioneered the genre, but influenced a lot of modern bands as well. And their music is awesome.

09-10-2009, 03:27 PM	#193 (permalink)
goodfoot Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: scotland Posts: 408	gotta be the clash! anyone who was there "77" the ramones would struggle to be in the top 10.

09-15-2009, 05:52 PM	#194 (permalink)
DIDIPP Groupie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 27	I also prefer The Clash. They included many other music genres in their sound, London Calling is just perfect and their lyrics were really amazing. But I agree that maybe if Ramones didn't exist, The Clash wouldn't exist either.

09-15-2009, 08:36 PM	#195 (permalink)
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09-17-2009, 08:41 AM	#196 (permalink)
The Monkey Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 803	OT, but as I listened through Never Mind the Bollocks for the first time in six months it struck me how lame the music was. Sex Pistols certainly hasn't stood the test of time.