Grunge_Junkie

the clash..cause they dont all sound alike.

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Alfred

Which essentially led to pop-punk.

You can definitely hear The Ramones' influence in Screeching Weasel, The Riverdales, The Lillingtons, The Ergs! and especially Teenage Bottlerocket.

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Urban Hat€monger ?

Which is the best reason i've seen to vote for The Clash

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Alfred

I think do The Clash were better, even though The Ramones pretty much invented my favorite punk subgenre.

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Minstrel

Well, as I said in another thread, I think the whole scene then was "pop-punk." The Buzz****s, Blondie, Rezillos, Boomtown Rats, etc...they were just as poppy as the Ramones, and I think that whole aesthetic has been passed down, through the post-punk, new wave, synthpop run of trends, into mainstream pop music.

Green Day comes directly out of that, IMO, and I think Green Day led to the rise of what people currently call "pop-punk."

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Alfred

Of course they did. They started out as a pop-punk band, and evolved into the mainstream pop rock band that they are today, but no one ever decided to remove them from the punk label that they had "earned", so to speak, in their early days.

In people's minds: if they pass as pop-punk, so must all these other bands like Good Charlotte and Sum 41, and eventually you get your Paramore's and Fall Out Boy's getting labeled that as well.

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Punk-

I say The Clash because The Ramones sound the same in every song and the clash sound way diffrent in each song.

Bulldog

I like the Ramones, but I'd have to say the Clash, even if their post-Sandinista albums aren't really any good

kyleargyle

I find the Ramones a little boring and the Pistols just an absolute chore to listen to. Both seem overrated to me.

Now, the Clash, though....THAT'S a band.

jaguar ride

London Calling is definitely my favorite punk album of all time, but nothing else by the Clash really wows me, although i have to say their self titled album's pretty solid. but the Ramones consistently came out with great albums. so i'm gonna have to go with them.

btw, what's with all the sex pistols hate?