Isn't 'Pop-Punk' an oxy moron? (blues, bass, rock, genre)

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-25-2008, 09:53 PM

Yeah but it doesn't prove anything.
The very notion that a genre of music can use more instruments than another is just ridiculous.

ProggyMan · 04-26-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Yeah but it doesn't prove anything.
The very notion that a genre of music can use more instruments than another is just ridiculous.

Mellotron blues lol. Well, it can happen in Country...Slint that's a bull**** list for rock instruments, sorry. Anyway, if the basic characteristics of rock are hard then what's hard rock?

Certainly rock is 'harder' than the Blues, but something being harder than the Blues doesn't make it Hard Rock.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-26-2008, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Mellotron blues lol. Well, it can happen in Country...Slint that's a bull**** list for rock instruments, sorry. Anyway, if the basic characteristics of rock are hard then what's hard rock?

Certainly rock is 'harder' than the Blues, but something being harder than the Blues doesn't make it Hard Rock.

Go back and read what I said because you seem to have gone on a totally different tangent as always. But then fudging the issue and trying to create as much confusion as possible is what you do to get your points across. Rock music started as the blues being played faster and louder and yes harder hence the name 'hard rock' as in 'Rock' a genre that has ALL it's roots in blues (as opposed to classical or jazz or fucking victorian music hall) being played 'Hard' hence the name HARD ROCK. Do I have to spell it out any clearer?

To suggest there is some kind of sliding scale of bluesness between rock , hard rock , blues rock or whatever is ridiculous. To suggest that the Rolling Stones , a band who did acoustic blues numbers one day and loud abrasive garage songs the next is either one of those labels or another is just ridiculous also. As it would be to every guitar band to come out of the 60s and early 70s

ProggyMan · 04-26-2008, 10:29 AM

So what you're saying is hard rock=rock?

ProggyMan · 04-26-2008, 10:42 AM

Ok. Blues Rock doesn't have any of those attributes besides a prominent guitar, which seems a bit tooo broad. Also Rock can have a much wider array of instruments that don't sound out of place. Blues is much more limited.

Piss Me Off · 04-26-2008, 11:02 AM

That looks like a list of hard rock bands if you ask me.

Piss Me Off · 04-26-2008, 11:07 AM

Splendid.
Does anyone else feel uncomfortable saying hard rock? I go for the phrase heavy rock.

ProggyMan · 04-26-2008, 11:14 AM

Naming a bunch of artists doesn't make it part of the genre. Pink Floyd did Blues-Rock without any of the things you mentioned, as has Tom Waits, Bruce Springsteen, Captain Beefheart and The Rolling Stones and many others.

KeithMoon2112 · 05-08-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesandtherubberducky

And I'm pretty sure The D*ckies didn't sing about cool kids or girlfriends. They liked Apes and killer clowns.

That is quite possibly the best theme song ever written. You'll be dead on arrival from the likes of the Killer Klowns!

As far as pop-punk...I think bands that define themselves as "pop-punk" are either pop or punk, and they should decide.

jackhammer · 05-15-2008, 06:30 PM

what is an oxymoron? I need to be reminded.

04-25-2008, 09:53 PM	#191 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Yeah but it doesn't prove anything. The very notion that a genre of music can use more instruments than another is just ridiculous. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

04-26-2008, 11:02 AM	#196 (permalink)
Piss Me Off Moodswings n' Roundabouts Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: At the corner of Dude and Catastrophe Posts: 4,512	That looks like a list of hard rock bands if you ask me. __________________ Last FM Rate Yr Music Muxtape

04-26-2008, 11:07 AM	#197 (permalink)
Piss Me Off Moodswings n' Roundabouts Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: At the corner of Dude and Catastrophe Posts: 4,512	Splendid. Does anyone else feel uncomfortable saying hard rock? I go for the phrase heavy rock. __________________ Last FM Rate Yr Music Muxtape

05-15-2008, 06:30 PM	#200 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	what is an oxymoron? I need to be reminded. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

04-26-2008, 10:29 AM	#194 (permalink)
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,964	So what you're saying is hard rock=rock?

04-26-2008, 10:42 AM	#195 (permalink)
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,964	Ok. Blues Rock doesn't have any of those attributes besides a prominent guitar, which seems a bit tooo broad. Also Rock can have a much wider array of instruments that don't sound out of place. Blues is much more limited.

04-26-2008, 11:14 AM	#198 (permalink)
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,964	Naming a bunch of artists doesn't make it part of the genre. Pink Floyd did Blues-Rock without any of the things you mentioned, as has Tom Waits, Bruce Springsteen, Captain Beefheart and The Rolling Stones and many others.