Why do people call bands like Fall Out Boy and Good charlotte "Sellouts"? (punk, rock)

Wifey Boozer · 11-19-2008, 06:47 PM

I like Alanis. When I was a kid me and my mom used to drive around listening to her on tape. Always "hands clean"... it was after she split with my dad for a while, ironically enough.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 11-19-2008, 07:08 PM

Does anyone want this tedious thread closed once & for all?

FaSho · 11-19-2008, 07:09 PM

I'm indifferent. It's gone downhill since the bumping though.

Arya Stark · 11-19-2008, 07:12 PM

Why do we need to close it?

>.<

Urban Hat€monger ? · 11-19-2008, 07:13 PM

Because it's boring and there are at least 15 billion other threads about selling out.

Astronomer · 11-19-2008, 07:14 PM

And I see a new Hilary Duff thread emerging from this sometime in the future.

Arya Stark · 11-19-2008, 07:20 PM

Oh.

Well I'm not on the billion other threads. =P

I'm on this one.

And ewh. Hilary Duff.

>.<

Maybe you should close it.

Aha.

Tobias · 11-19-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by provorocker

Personally I dont care if someone is a "sell out." If their music is good thats all that matters. It is frustrating when a band I like changes their sound though to appeal to the more main stream and signs a big contract. But it could be worse, they could make no money, have no fans, and stop making music completely.

I believe this whole heartedly

Quote:

Originally Posted by the new scene

some people call them sell outs as an excuse to stop listening to them was because they got popular. and you know how some people just can't bear to listen to mainstream music anymore.

true

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whatsitoosit

Why not make the song because you love making music but then take that song you love and make some money with it? I don't see why the two can't be married... as humble as it is to be the starving artist it's also pretty stupid when you can be making a nice living by doing what you love. When I say business I don't mean when it comes to writing the songs, I mean when it comes to marketing them.

Yes, why not?

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Originally Posted by jibber

I really hate the term "sell-out." A band who went from being punk, playing good music, to being a commercial, poppy sounding band didn't sell out, they just made a choice to appeal to a different demographic. Every band who makes a serious run at it is aiming to reach a certain level of success or popularity, it all depends on how much they are willing to devote to it. It's no more respectful to be playing small shows in local pubs and bars your entire career than it is to be playing massive stadium shows and selling action figures of the band next to the new CD. It's merely a business choice.

Any band that whines about how other bands sell out, how they will "stay true to their roots," and how they don't care about the money, all the while bashing every successful band out there for being a "sellout" are one of two things, idiots, or liars.

They're idiots for not realizing that the music industry is a business. As soon as you put out a record, you are in that business. You might want to just dabble, you might want to make it your full time job, but don't get up on your high horse calling it integrity that you're not successful.

Or they're liars because they really want all that money, fame, and success, but know they can't get it so they bitch and whine.

I agree.

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Originally Posted by FaSho

I think RJA are OKAY, and I like A FEW Avril songs, but I don't think they changed directions they just got steadily worse. Same with Paramore, who I still like.

I like all three of those. Though I wouldn't consider any of them "punk", ever. what ever happened to simplistic genres?

Arya Stark · 11-19-2008, 08:40 PM

I'm not a fan of genres.

I never know what to say when people ask what type of music I like.

I mean... I like... Rock...

But I also like other music

But not enough.

I just like music. End of story.

=P

I hate genres.

Tobias · 11-19-2008, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxawwxsugarxx

I'm not a fan of genres.

I never know what to say when people ask what type of music I like.

I mean... I like... Rock...

But I also like other music

But not enough.

I just like music. End of story.

=P

I hate genres.

are you reading my mind? I swear you are...lol

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Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Does anyone want this tedious thread closed once & for all? __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

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Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Because it's boring and there are at least 15 billion other threads about selling out. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

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11-19-2008, 07:12 PM	#234 (permalink)
Arya Stark "Hermione-Lite" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York. Posts: 3,084	Why do we need to close it? >.<

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Arya Stark "Hermione-Lite" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York. Posts: 3,084	Oh. Well I'm not on the billion other threads. =P I'm on this one. And ewh. Hilary Duff. >.< Maybe you should close it. Aha.

11-19-2008, 08:40 PM	#239 (permalink)
Arya Stark "Hermione-Lite" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York. Posts: 3,084	I'm not a fan of genres. I never know what to say when people ask what type of music I like. I mean... I like... Rock... But I also like other music But not enough. I just like music. End of story. =P I hate genres.