bardonodude

ok a band that sells out is a band that actually sells out a show. If fall out boy sells out all of their concerts, then they are a sell out. nuff said

jacklovezhimself

not really. isn't selling out bad?
if so, then you're taking something good, like selling all of your concert tickets, and turning it into negativity.

I think selling out is more turning into the mainstream and sort of disapering from their fans. It also might just be an illusion put on by the fans to scare their favorite bands.

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bardonodude

probably, bands get big, they get signed to bigger record labels selling out to the man in the process, have littler creative control and want to make more money. I think they have. Selling out shows while still not being sellouts would be like Harry and The Potters selling out a bigass center while doing everything themselves, I.E. DIY which they did with like 1,200 people in attendance or something crazy like that.

jacklovezhimself

well yeah I mean if you sell out a small venue it could just mean that your really famous.

are all famous bands sell outs?

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FaSho

depending on the definition yes

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Arya Stark

I haven't heard Good Charlotte be called a sell out.

They have gotten more pop-like, though.

jibber

I really hate the term "sell-out." A band who went from being punk, playing good music, to being a commercial, poppy sounding band didn't sell out, they just made a choice to appeal to a different demographic. Every band who makes a serious run at it is aiming to reach a certain level of success or popularity, it all depends on how much they are willing to devote to it. It's no more respectful to be playing small shows in local pubs and bars your entire career than it is to be playing massive stadium shows and selling action figures of the band next to the new CD. It's merely a business choice.

Any band that whines about how other bands sell out, how they will "stay true to their roots," and how they don't care about the money, all the while bashing every successful band out there for being a "sellout" are one of two things, idiots, or liars.

They're idiots for not realizing that the music industry is a business. As soon as you put out a record, you are in that business. You might want to just dabble, you might want to make it your full time job, but don't get up on your high horse calling it integrity that you're not successful.

Or they're liars because they really want all that money, fame, and success, but know they can't get it so they bitch and whine.

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dac

Yes and no. It's annoying how every band that ends up being well known is labeled a sellout. When a band makes a conscious decision to forgo making music that they like to make music that has a wider appeal in order to make more money, then yes, they are sellouts. No doubt about it. The music industry may be a business, but music is still an art form. Bands that do sell out should be criticized though. What if Picasso, had decided to stop making his abstract work and instead went for a normal approach to painting so he could conceivably make more money?

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kida

I've heard you say this like 10x now

Terrible Lizard

A band only sells out when they are no longer musicians, but simply bitches to some corporation's marketing campaign.
Watch the music video for "Thanks for the Memories" by Fall out Boy, the product placement is so out in the open it's kind of pathetic.

But besides that they pretty much suck in every way, just watch a live performance.

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