Is Old School Punk an actual genre? (techno, hardcore, jazz) - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > The Music Forums > Punk
Register Blogging Today's Posts
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-17-2008, 01:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
Destroyer of Guitars
 
ObiSobi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 147
Question Is Old School Punk an actual genre?

I've asked this question to several punk rock fans. The ones who were green day fans said no. The ones who werent said yes.

It's easy to see the connection here, Green Day.

Some see GD as "New Punk", along with bands like Blink 182 and Sum 41.

Others think that punk hasn't changed enough to create the "Old School" subgenre.

What do you think?
ObiSobi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2008, 02:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
Existential Egoist
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,468
Default

Green Day is music for 13 year old boys. Green Day fans are usually wrong about everything.
Inuzuka Skysword is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2008, 03:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
isfckingdead
 
sleepy jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 18,967
Default

Blink-182/Green Day haven't even been pop punk in a long time (though blink was really only pop-punkish on like their really early stuff) and Sum 41 never were.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by METALLICA89 View Post
Ive seen you on muiltipul forums saying Metallica and slayer are the worst **** you kid go suck your **** while you listen to your ****ing emo **** I bet you do listen to emo music
sleepy jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2008, 04:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
Diskobox
 
Lizzie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: vancouver
Posts: 660
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword View Post
Green Day is music for 13 year old boys. Green Day fans are usually wrong about everything.
Agreed

Quote:
Originally Posted by berlisishott View Post
Some see GD as "New Punk", along with bands like Blink 182 and Sum 41.
I don't see any of that as 'new punk' though, or punk rock at all......so I'm not a Green Day fan, but I still don't see 'Old School Punk' as an actual genre or anything.....a band is either punk rock, or it's not
__________________
white and black, are you looking for the sun boy?
the sun doesn't shine down here, no, not in the shadow
Lizzie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2008, 05:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
Destroyer of Guitars
 
ObiSobi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 147
Default

Green Day mascuades as punk rock. That's why when certain people ask other people "Whats your fav genre?" some are hesitent to say Punk Rock, because others (ecspecially Metalheads) automaticly think Green Day.
Annoys me to death!
ObiSobi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2008, 06:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
The Sexual Intellectual
 
Urban Hat€monger ?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere cooler than you
Posts: 18,605
Default

Yes old punk is a genre, and it's right up there with 'old jazz' , 'old techno' . 'old polka' and 'post not quite as post as it is now rock'.
__________________



Urb's RYM Stuff

Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.
Urban Hat€monger ? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008, 02:41 AM   #7 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
can_i_say's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: The Toon
Posts: 226
Default

Punk has always been pop. Example - The Ramones.
__________________
meh
can_i_say is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008, 01:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
Destroyer of Guitars
 
ObiSobi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 147
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by can_i_say View Post
Punk has always been pop. Example - The Ramones.
Uh no. But there is such a genre as "Pop Punk". Example - Paramore
ObiSobi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008, 01:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 94
Default

Mike Watt has his own opinion of punk - it ended in the mid to late 1980's. Personally I can't say I completely agree with him, but he does have a point. Consider psychedelic music, it clearly had it's time & place in the late 1960's, but since then numerous bands have reinvented the genre, particularly in the 1980's.

The point being - punk music was clearly a current music genre in the 1970's through 1980's. Once punk music wained it no longer became an active genre - see 'post-punk' following 1970's UK punk or 'hardcore' following early 1980's US hardcore punk. So I don't know what any punk since 1990 really is - certainly Fugazi is punk, but what about any band that started from scratch since then?
teshadoh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008, 01:26 PM   #10 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 94
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by berlisishott View Post
Uh no. But there is such a genre as "Pop Punk". Example - Paramore
I agree with him - 'punk' was a counter movement to 1970's metal & progressive rock. Punk bands of the 1970's were really just playing early 1960's pop / garage rock but with more energy. Take a look at most UK punk - it was treated as pop music by the masses, albeit a completely different form of pop music.
teshadoh is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Similar Threads



© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.