Television (punk, favorite songs, album, tunes, quote)

SammyJay · 08-26-2008, 10:23 AM

Marquee Moon is my favorite song. And the album is one of, if not the best, album ever made.

**Janszoon** · 08-26-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SammyJay

Marquee Moon is my favorite song. And the album is one of, if not the best, album ever made.

It really is a great album. My favorite songs on it are Marquee Moon, Venus, and Torn Curtain.

15Steps · 08-26-2008, 08:00 PM

elevation, dont go to my head.

Minstrel · 08-28-2008, 03:28 PM

Television a prog band? A jam band? Sure...as much as Velvet Underground was.

To be clear, I'm not saying Television was as good as Velvet Underground, but the "criticisms" Alex Kapranos applies to Television could be equally applied to Velvet Underground, and I'd say it's pretty irrelevant, really. "Sister Ray" is nothing but a jam, up to twenty minutes, depending on the version.

I'd call both bands art punk or art rock. They both had the aesthetic of doing their own thing, exploring music the way they wanted too. Three-minute time limit rules are silly...punk isn't about rigidly sticking to rules. I think Television (and VU, even if the term "punk" didn't exist when they were active) fit the punk aesthetic perfectly well. Even if they have long songs, even if they are sonically challenging.

I think the Marquee Moon album is great. Definitely one of the great things out of the New York music scene.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-28-2008, 05:56 PM

Art rock is just prog with shorter haircuts & no elves anyway.

Minstrel · 08-28-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Art rock is just prog with shorter haircuts & no elves anyway.

Definitely overlaps. But I think progressive is a specific type of art rock. A different type than VU and Television.

But then, I don't consider prog to be a bad word, so it really isn't a big deal to me.

Surell · 09-07-2008, 12:20 AM

I've heard Venus and Marquee Moon by them, and they make some very beautiful music. I need to check that whole album out.

GravitySlips · 09-07-2008, 03:40 PM

yes, you do.

Sister Ray · 11-30-2008, 08:44 PM

Tom Verlaine and Richard Lloyd are both excellent. They created quite a unique guitar sound together.

I love Television... Marquee Moon is a classic.

almauro · 12-02-2008, 04:07 PM

By 1977 Television was already headed into the new wave. The elaborate guitar work immediately separated them from the punks. I'd been listening to Dream Syndicate "Days of Wine and Roses" recently, which reminded me alot of Marquee Moon as well as White Light/White Heat. Steve Wynn and Karl Precoda were another great duo. Speaking of the Voidoids, Robert Quine's guitar work was frickin aces, RIP.

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Minstrel Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 436	Television a prog band? A jam band? Sure...as much as Velvet Underground was. To be clear, I'm not saying Television was as good as Velvet Underground, but the "criticisms" Alex Kapranos applies to Television could be equally applied to Velvet Underground, and I'd say it's pretty irrelevant, really. "Sister Ray" is nothing but a jam, up to twenty minutes, depending on the version. I'd call both bands art punk or art rock. They both had the aesthetic of doing their own thing, exploring music the way they wanted too. Three-minute time limit rules are silly...punk isn't about rigidly sticking to rules. I think Television (and VU, even if the term "punk" didn't exist when they were active) fit the punk aesthetic perfectly well. Even if they have long songs, even if they are sonically challenging. I think the Marquee Moon album is great. Definitely one of the great things out of the New York music scene. __________________ "Blow your tuneless trumpet, the choice is yours / We don't want the glamour, the pomp and the drums / The Dublin messiah scattering crumbs"

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almauro Way Out There Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 850	By 1977 Television was already headed into the new wave. The elaborate guitar work immediately separated them from the punks. I'd been listening to Dream Syndicate "Days of Wine and Roses" recently, which reminded me alot of Marquee Moon as well as White Light/White Heat. Steve Wynn and Karl Precoda were another great duo. Speaking of the Voidoids, Robert Quine's guitar work was frickin aces, RIP. __________________ rock n music blog

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SammyJay Sam Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 21	Marquee Moon is my favorite song. And the album is one of, if not the best, album ever made.

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Surell Master, We Perish Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Havin a good time, rollin to the bottom. Posts: 3,710	I've heard Venus and Marquee Moon by them, and they make some very beautiful music. I need to check that whole album out.

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GravitySlips Music Addict Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,578	yes, you do.

11-30-2008, 08:44 PM	#39 (permalink)
Sister Ray Groupie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 27	Tom Verlaine and Richard Lloyd are both excellent. They created quite a unique guitar sound together. I love Television... Marquee Moon is a classic.