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SammyJay 08-26-2008 09:23 AM

Marquee Moon is my favorite song. And the album is one of, if not the best, album ever made.

Janszoon 08-26-2008 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SammyJay (Post 510841)
Marquee Moon is my favorite song. And the album is one of, if not the best, album ever made.

It really is a great album. My favorite songs on it are Marquee Moon, Venus, and Torn Curtain.

15Steps 08-26-2008 07:00 PM

elevation, dont go to my head.

Minstrel 08-28-2008 02:28 PM

Television a prog band? A jam band? Sure...as much as Velvet Underground was.

To be clear, I'm not saying Television was as good as Velvet Underground, but the "criticisms" Alex Kapranos applies to Television could be equally applied to Velvet Underground, and I'd say it's pretty irrelevant, really. "Sister Ray" is nothing but a jam, up to twenty minutes, depending on the version.

I'd call both bands art punk or art rock. They both had the aesthetic of doing their own thing, exploring music the way they wanted too. Three-minute time limit rules are silly...punk isn't about rigidly sticking to rules. I think Television (and VU, even if the term "punk" didn't exist when they were active) fit the punk aesthetic perfectly well. Even if they have long songs, even if they are sonically challenging.

I think the Marquee Moon album is great. Definitely one of the great things out of the New York music scene.

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-28-2008 04:56 PM

Art rock is just prog with shorter haircuts & no elves anyway.

Minstrel 08-28-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 511881)
Art rock is just prog with shorter haircuts & no elves anyway.

Definitely overlaps. But I think progressive is a specific type of art rock. A different type than VU and Television. ;)

But then, I don't consider prog to be a bad word, so it really isn't a big deal to me.

Surell 09-06-2008 11:20 PM

I've heard Venus and Marquee Moon by them, and they make some very beautiful music. I need to check that whole album out.

GravitySlips 09-07-2008 02:40 PM

yes, you do.

Sister Ray 11-30-2008 07:44 PM

Tom Verlaine and Richard Lloyd are both excellent. They created quite a unique guitar sound together.

I love Television... Marquee Moon is a classic.

almauro 12-02-2008 03:07 PM

By 1977 Television was already headed into the new wave. The elaborate guitar work immediately separated them from the punks. I'd been listening to Dream Syndicate "Days of Wine and Roses" recently, which reminded me alot of Marquee Moon as well as White Light/White Heat. Steve Wynn and Karl Precoda were another great duo. Speaking of the Voidoids, Robert Quine's guitar work was frickin aces, RIP.


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