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I hate MTV. MTV blows so much ass. I also hate AFI.

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 361145)

How is it new-age emo? because you believe anything MTV tells you?

Sorry, I don't watch MTV. It's new-age Emo because it's commonly referred to as Emo (I didn't invent the genre name) and unlike other past bands that were commonly referred to as being "Emo" (which I agree is a silly name to begin with) it is simply pop and is only made to market an image and sell lots of records to seemingly disturbed kids. Why does that label upset you so much? Again, calling any type of music Emo is stupid in my opinion and I think bands like Fall Out Boy or MCR should just call themselves "pop", which they would if they had the balls and actually knew that that's all they were, but nobody would ever know what I was talking about without saying something to the effect of "new-age Emo."

So Simple Plan and Good Charlotte are "New Age Punk?

No, they're new age pop artists marketing themselves as punk to sell more records. I honestly hope they're run over.

^ hahahaha i they are also very hiprocritical considering that they have a song agiasnt rich and famos poeple and all of them own atleast 4 cars and have mansions

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 361356)

So Simple Plan and Good Charlotte are "New Age Punk?

When did I say that? I'm not telling you what my definition of "Emo" is, but what society's term for this genre of music is. What's your definition of Emo?

I don't think I would say emo is the best subgenre of punk, but its pretty good. I listened to just punk and ska for like two years, but in the last year I've been really getting into hardcore, screamo, and emo. One reason I was drawn to these genres is because I'm a guitarist and hardcore/screamo/emo bands offer more technical guitar riffs and complex song structures than (most) punk. I still like punk, but I haven't been listening to it much in the last year.

Possibly:
Screamo>Hardcore>Punk>Emo

But there's such variety in emo that its hard to place. Some I like a lot, but the more indie-influenced stuff I'm not real big on.

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Originally Posted by visualsynergy (Post 361137)

Just saw this post. I agree that Fugazi and Cursive aren't "Emo" but they have been referred to as Emo in the past when Emo was just a word used to label post-punk or indie that no one really had a specific name for yet. So I absolutely agree that introspection and emotions don't equal Emo. But there is such a thing as new-age Emo, with bands like My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy and Panic! At The Disco and AFI and whoever else. Which is just poppy bands pretending to be punk or post-punk or "Emo" or whatever and marketing mild depression and thoughts of suicide to young teenagers. Genre standards may not change, but the messages found in the music and image does and this new-age Emo is just a way to sell records while telling kids it's ok to drown in your own misery and never have to take care of any of your problems because that's the cool thing to do.

I wouldn't ever call AFI emo, even wth their older stuff. Black Sails etc hardcore, Decemberunderground pop punk.

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Originally Posted by PaperHurricanesAndPlanes (Post 361255)

I hate MTV. MTV blows so much ass. I also hate AFI.

Ima guess you've only heard Decemberunderground. Specially seeing as you compared Bright Eyes to Bad Religion yet Bright Eyes easily smack the **** out of them.

this topic is inciting such incredible RAGE among both sides of the argument. can't we all just agree that everything ties into punk in someway through history, whether it is a strong tie or the equivalent of a fly landing on a drink, and that means that practically all genres of music are (falsely or not) a subgenre of punk, and that also means that the world of music is a subgenre of punk, and since everything is punk we should burn all the pop children... correct or not (it was definitely not, if you couldn't see that), you know I'm onto something with that pop children burning thing... and then we can all get chelsea's and mohawk, and be happy... I'm tired

Or we could just completely disregard genres and only judge music as good or bad on a band-to-band basis.

And I have to say that I enjoyed everything by AFI up to Decemberunderground, which I can't stand. Even Sing the Sorrow wasn't too bad. It certainly was more interesting and creative than their earliest hardcore punk records.