Alblum recommendations
 

this is a thread for recommending good records. and right now i'm looking for good stuff. and i don't mean hot new ****, like all the garbage coming out now. like, records every punk should have. i don't have anything by NOFX or Rancid, so any suggestions for a first buy would be great. thanks.:beer:

You can probably skip those two bands and go farther back in time instead. I'd start with the self-titled debut by The Clash.

The Damned "Damned Damned Damned"
The Misfits "Static Age"

Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
Agent Orange - Living In Darkness
Minor Threat - Complete Discography
NoMeansNo - Wrong
Husker Du - Zen Arcade
The Ramones - S/T
New Bomb Turks - Information Highway Revisited (not really a classic or anything, but it's such a ****ing fun album)
Richard Hell & The Voidoids - Blank Generation
The Stooges - S/T
The Adolescents - S/T
Black Flag - Damaged
Crass - Penis Envy (more post-punk)
Dead Boys - Young, Loud and Snotty
The Descendents - Milo Goes to College
Fear - The Record
The Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime
Meat Puppets - S/T
The Pagans - Buried Alive
Stiff Little Fingers - Inflammable Material
X - Los Angeles
X-Ray Spex - Germ-Free Adolescents

and **** you if you don't like any of those.

:bowdown:

I wish someone had given me that list three years ago :)

Your list wins. Anyone with ears could happily live the rest of their lives with those.

Crossing The Red Seas With The Adverts - The Adverts
Singles Going Steady - The Buzzc0cks
Blood Brothers - The Dictators
London Calling - The Clash
Marquee Moon - Television
New York Dolls - New York Dolls
Perfect Hits 1975-1981 - Generation X
In The City - The Jam
Funhouse - The Stooges
Raw Power - The Stooges
Wild Gift - X
13 Songs - Fugazi

adam ant- songs from the forbidden zone
pil - pil
crass- feeding of the 5000
bauhaus- in the flat field

Gang Green- You Got It
Jerry's Kids- Is This My World?
The Germs- What We Do Is Secret
Music From Hell- Nervous Gender

I'll post some more if you want some more, but those 4 are gems.

Definately not. ^


Definately do...
Sham69 - 'Tell Us The Truth' and 'That's Life'.
Tracks like, 'Borstal Breakout'/'Angels With Dirty Faces' and 'Hurry Up Harry'.

The Stranglers - 'Rattus Norvegicus'/'No More Heroes'/'Black and White' and 'The Raven'.

The Skids- 'Scared To Dance' Top tracks...'Into The Valley' and 'The Saints Are Coming'.

Also, The Ruts, Slaughter And The Dogs, Angelic Upstarts and The U.K. Subs.
The Dickies weren't bad either.
Early Joy Division (aka Warsaw) and V2.

All The above bands had credibility in the late 70's.

Songs From the Forbidden Zone has one good song on it.

The Monks and The Sonics are two great bands for some really early proto-punk.

Adam & The Ants debut album Dirk Wears White Sox is a really good album ,totally different to anything else he ever did, but I can see why people would be put off from listening to it.

heh i like it, and your not to say it isn't good. eaxcept for the last tracks? wtf

I've never heard it. The whole Ant Music thing put me right off.
Songs like 'Stand And Deliver' and knowing Malcolm McClaren was behind it all was the final straw.
I'll check that out. Who knows, it may put the whole thing in another light.
Never given that a chance either...same reasons I stated to Urban.

My memories of the Punk scene in Britain are still clear in my mind. As I recall, no punk worth his salt would have taken Adam Ant seriously.

he wasn't really punk..new wave.. its funny =/ *meh*

The Slits - Cut
The Clash - Essential Clash
Black Flag - The First Four Years
The Gun Club - Fire of Love
Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
Iggy & the Stooges - Raw Power
Patti Smith - Horses
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Velvet Underground - Velvet Underground & Nico and White Light/White Heat

Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation. I love the alternation between the guys voice and the womens voice that's original.

Great album...but in this context I kind of have to say...WHA???

Are you saying it's a precursor to punk or something?

Id say that its pure garage rock which birthed punk and the lyricism is on another level to most punk/garage bands.

Bob Dylan was a total punk back then, have you ever seen Don't Look Back.

That's a very interesting perspective. I have to say I disagree, but it is very interesting.

To be fair though: no I've never seen Don't Look Back

Its basically the film that established Dylan as being a razor sharp, confrontational artist. Theres footage of him being interviewed by journalists and he totally chews them up and spits them out. He basically takes them on in a way I don't think anybody had before and calls into question the whole fame game and the ridiculousness of it nearly 30 years before Kurt Cobain did.

I think I've seen that footage in Scorsesee's No Direction Home. He seemed to be more uncomfortable than confrontational to me. I'd like to quote it to see if we're talking about the same thing, but it's been too long so I watched that. I think the guy who started this thread is interested in bands that fall into a subgenre of punk rather than those who might be considered kindred spirits with the great punks. Although in support of your point, he did establish the possibilty for those who didn't have singing talent by traditional standards to create hit records and be accepted as quality musicians. Because of him, voices can have character...thus we get Bjork, Neil Young, Lou Reed etc... I think another point in support of Dylan being some kind of predecessor to punk is that Lou Reed seemed to take such direct inspiration from him, in terms of vivid, yet surreal imagery of the streets in his songs (although his songs were usually more urban-centric than Dylan's) and the idea that lyrics could be spoken, and it was ok to make stylistic choices that jibed with what was generally accepted (Kind of like Dylan's decision to go electric).

Anyway I'd don't think I'd equate Dylan's music with garage rock, since he populated his back-up bands with utter virtuosos of the blues (Al Kooper, Mike Bloomfield etc...) Though he was influenced by The British R&B and Blues based bands (many of whom were kind of garage in their own right.) Undoubtedly his arrangements (or lack thereof is more like it) are wildly unique. His guitar and voice forms the canvas and the band fills in the gaps, all the sound swirls together, always in weird keys, bluesy but unconventional and you can make a game out of trying to distinguish between all the instruments as they overlap and weave in and out of each other's path. Amazing stuff and I think I'll never get sick of it. Anyway, I guess overall I can definitely see your point with including Dylan here, and though I'm not totally sure I agree, I don't object to the recommendation because everybody who truly likes music should listen to Dylan.

Thankyou. When I say about it being garage rock Im talking more about the sound and aethetic of it than the musicianship. Mike Bloomfield was a far more advanced guitar player than any of the guys in the garage bands but I think between that banging drum sound and his bluesy raw guitar sound that the album has its quite similar to the Rolling Stones garage rock songs ("19th Nervous Breakdown", "The Last Time" etc). What you have to remember about garage rock is that it was basically untrained American kids trying to copy Stones and Yardbirds records, like "19th Nervous Breakdown" and "I'm A Man."

I feel that punk rock is an American invention and that it started in the mid '60s with bands like the Count Five and the Sonics. I wouldnt say "you can trace it back to the Yardbirds via influence" cause I think that the Yardbirds and the Stones wrote the British Invasion chapter of the history of rock. There influence is so apparent on some of the American bands of the time that its easy to lump them all in together but I don't think its accurate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB0rEkC6PtM
Heres a great clip from Don't Look Back that encapsulates what I mean. They used a bit of it in No Direction Home. I can certainly understand why a lot of people saw this and thought that Dylan was an ******* (even to this day some people still feel this way) but as I say Dylan was as punk as they come back then and, with that, I feel comes a certain degree of being confrontational.

Thanks...That was cool. Though I really don't think Dylan is saying much of substance. hIt seems like he's often talking just to talk...but he's so agressive he still overpowers the journalist whose job it is to talk to people.

There's a tape out there of Paul Nelson arguing with Dylan earlier on, saying he should move away from the political songs, and Dylan saying: No, everything has to be political. Obviously Nelson was right since Dylan did give up folk to make some wildly brilliant rock & roll records. But Dylan won the arugment at the time just because his personality was so forceful.

Speaking of great interviews that embody the punk spirit...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqxcgPPdYwo

Iggy Pop on a Canadian Talk Show

"What I do on stage has utterly no purpose."

A clip from this plays during the song by Mogwai called "Punk Rock" and its even cooler there, with the music behind it.

That Iggy interview is one of the greatest interviews ever. Ive seen it a few times and Im always impressed with how respectful Iggy is even when putting the guy straight.:)

I just wish the picture wasnt so blurry.

yeah, i think anyone who makes a stand against the cookie-cutter, conformist lifestyle is cool. but i started this profile more like: "i'm getting into this band and i need to know what CD to get first" "or, i already have 1 or 2, could you recommend more" or "i like this artist, is there anything similar, and if so could you recommend a CD" yeah. i'm looking into Death by Stereo and i was wondering if anybody had any suggestions?

Here's my suggestion: listen to bands who were playing when punk was still something original and fresh.

For the most punk rock is nothing but a cookie cutter conformist style of music. Whats more conformist than just playing fast and loud like everybody else?

not really, cause in my opinion playing fast, loud and rebelliously never gets old. and you can mix in a whole bunch of different stuff. as long as you don't compromise credibility for some gimmick. anyhow, i wanna buy something by NOFX, black flag, bad religion or any of the 80s, early 90s bands and i was looking to see what you guys recommended.

Honestly the Black Flag CDs sound dreadful. Really bad. Its a total shame cause they were a good band with some good songs but the digital transfer of that stuff is ****. They need remastering.

Or should you say, 70s.............................yes you should.

Legacy of Brutality
Blackflag 3
Famous Monsters
Never Mind the Bullocks...
Hey Ho Let's Go

Descendents fans; unite to inform me...

Cool To Be You, is it a brilliant album? Worth $5? Worth $10? $20?

Ta.

^worst album............................................. ever

I would pay the sum of $5.00 for it and no higher, the only track on that steamy pile of sh!t that is any good is 'Merican

Oh well thats solved that. Cheers MJ, might go buy myself a big icecream instead.

Have you bought yourself a Misfits album yet? It doesn't matter which one, just go get one.

I second the above post.

leftover crack-medicore generica
operation ive-energy
agianst me-crime(its a 7" but its also on cd)
the blatz/filth split
tilt-till it kills
leftover crack-shoot the kids at school