The Punk Education Thread (lyrics, metal, rock, bands)

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe · 01-02-2006, 10:31 PM

i have a question for hookers or anyone who might know something about this.

ive heard of "the talking heads" referred to as a punk band. i dont know if that makes sense or not. woul they fit into post-punk with joy division and the fall? i think im a little confused by all these sub genres.

cardboard adolescent · 01-02-2006, 10:49 PM

The Talking Heads is a band that is pretty hard to categorize, partially because of the stylistic shifts they've seen over their career. They started in '74, so they're not really a "post-punk" band, since they were recording as punk was just starting to get a foothold. I've heard them called "new wave," although I don't altogether agree with that either, since new wave always implies to me glossed over production with shiny, danceable synth rhythms and strong pop sensiblities, which you don't really get on tracks like "Psycho Killer," which do have more of a Gang of Four punk-influenced feel to them. So, I'd say The Talking Heads were an art-punk/art-rock band that ultimately moved towards a more conventional pop-rock/new wave sound.

hookers with machineguns · 01-03-2006, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

I definetely wouldn't call the New York Dolls, the Ramones, Television, and Richard Hell "new wavers" but other than that most of it seems pretty accurate.

Yeah I corrected that. Thanks for the feedback adolescent one.

sleepy jack · 02-26-2006, 12:34 AM

Punx Rawk Sub-genre Song Recommendations
by hookersisexual & Millycrowpillonfire

Street

Cheap Sex "Fuck Emo"
The Unseen "I Don't Care"
A Global Threat "We're All Equal In The End"
Exploited "Law For The Rich"
Lars Fredrickson & The Bastards "Dead American"
Filth "Dead List"
Oxymoron "Dead End Generation"
The Varukers "Endless Destruction Line"
Devotchkas "My Scars"

Oi!

Sham 69 "Hurry Up Harry"
Peter and The Test Tube Babies "Banned From The Pubs"
Cock Sparrer "England Belongs To Me"
Stiff Little Fingers "Alternative Ulster"

Hardcore

Bad Brains "Pay To Cum"
Minor Threat "Out Of Step"
Dead Kennedys "Police Truck"
The Germs "Communist Eyes"
Reagan Youth "Degenerated "
Urban Waste "Public Opinion"

Anarcho

Behind Enemy Lines "Hooked On Christ"
Antichism "Take Your City Back"
Wolfbrigade "Chemical Straight Jacket"
Crass "Banned From The Roxy"
Blatz "Lullaby"
Oi Polloi "They Shoot Children Don't They?"
Aus Rotten "Fuck Nazi Sympathy"

Crust

Nausea "Clutches"
Contravene "In The Name Of Convienence"
Misery "Born Fed Slaughter"
Tragedy "Beginning of the End"
Amebix "Slaves"

Psychobilly

The Cramps "I Was A Teenage Werewolf"
Nekromantix "Haunted Cathouse"
Reverend Horton Heat "The Devil's Chasing Me"
Hillbilly Hellcats "Dead Mans Party"
The Meteors "Shes a Zombie Now"

Horror

The Misfits "Last Caress"
Samhain "All Murder, All Guts, All Fun"
Balzac "To Kill Your Master"
Calabrese "Every Days A Funeral"

Pop

Screeching Weasel "I Hate Led Zeppelin"
The Queens "Punk Rock Girls"
The Ramones "The KKK Took My Baby Away"
The Vandals "My Girlfriends Dead"
Bad Religion "American Jesus"
The Descendents "Silly Girl"

Ska

Operation Ivy "Take Warning"
Streetlight Manifesto "We Are The Few"
Aquabats "My Skateboard"
Big D & The Kids Table "Those Kids Suck"
Leftover Crack "Athiest Anthem"
Catch 22 "Kristina, She Doesn't Know I Exist"

HollywoodPeace · 02-26-2006, 11:27 PM

I think I'm gonna have to use that History for a project I'm doing, if you don't mind I mean. I like how it was put together.
Thanks.

Potato Chip · 03-24-2006, 07:45 PM

first time i read something that long. i found it very interesting

boo boo · 04-04-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Shouldn`t there be something about post punk...

Y`know , The Fall , Wire , Blue Orchids , The Prisoners , The Milkshakes , P.I.L. , Gang Of Four , Cabaret Voltare , Throbbing Gristle , The Birthday Party , Magazine , Bauhaus , The Raincoats , XTC , Mission Of Burma , The Gun Club, Etc Etc.........

Agreed.

I really think The Minutemen should have been mentioned.

DevotchkaDream · 05-09-2006, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Shouldn`t there be something about post punk...

Y`know , The Fall , Wire , Blue Orchids , The Prisoners , The Milkshakes , P.I.L. , Gang Of Four , Cabaret Voltare , Throbbing Gristle , The Birthday Party , Magazine , Bauhaus , The Raincoats , XTC , Mission Of Burma , The Gun Club, Etc Etc.........

Throbbing Gristle is Industrial...

swim · 05-09-2006, 07:41 PM

^is right.

Urban and booboo, if you want there to be something on post-punk then write something.

cardboard adolescent · 05-09-2006, 07:47 PM

Industrial is just an outgrowth of post-punk.

02-26-2006, 11:27 PM	#35 (permalink)
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01-02-2006, 10:49 PM	#32 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	The Talking Heads is a band that is pretty hard to categorize, partially because of the stylistic shifts they've seen over their career. They started in '74, so they're not really a "post-punk" band, since they were recording as punk was just starting to get a foothold. I've heard them called "new wave," although I don't altogether agree with that either, since new wave always implies to me glossed over production with shiny, danceable synth rhythms and strong pop sensiblities, which you don't really get on tracks like "Psycho Killer," which do have more of a Gang of Four punk-influenced feel to them. So, I'd say The Talking Heads were an art-punk/art-rock band that ultimately moved towards a more conventional pop-rock/new wave sound.

03-24-2006, 07:45 PM	#36 (permalink)
Potato Chip Groupie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5	first time i read something that long. i found it very interesting

05-09-2006, 07:47 PM	#40 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	Industrial is just an outgrowth of post-punk.