MTV and the industry didnt start making money off of punk right away, you should know that being were pretty much the same age. It was all about the hair metal and 80s synch rock back then. when MTV first came out what punk bands were they selling? what punk bands were heard on the radio? very VERY few..ramones, clash, some sex pistols....im not as young as you think i am. I remember getting hassled by jocks, cops, and everyone else for being punk, and standing out in a crowd, watched like a hawk everytime I go anywhere. but i still dont get the point you are trying to make? why would i spend 30-40 bux to see danzig when i can see a real punk band for 5-10?

Hey buddy, time to learn how to type properly. At eight years old it's acceptable to use "ur", "b4", and "bux". Then there comes a time when you've got to grow up and learn propper spelling. Now, to ease you into this, I'm going to give you an example, and put the changes in bold type.

"You're obviously too young to remember the good old days before MTV (there's a delete button for a reason, use it if you make a typo) came along and destroyed the whole industry."

now, sentence structure is a whole other lesson, but maybe we should take it in baby steps.

Rolling Stone and the media did exploit punk, which is why we have pop punk today...They praised punk for being a alternative to corperate rock, but they helped turn punk into just that, corperate rock, the mainstream carnation of punk as we know it today (aka pop punk) embodys everything that punk originaly stood against in the first place.

Its not pop punk its pop rock or MTV punk.

pop rock is broader, because stuff like weezer is pop rock to. So pop punk is the right genra.

Compare weezer.
To these "pop punk" bands that i call pop rock.
They sound alike.

In my opion,

1. Punk music died the moment it started to get recornised. It got raped to death and its deseased corpse is still being raped

2. For the bit that said something about how everything has been made mainstream, well thats one of the points behind punk that this wasnt supposed to happen, but yet the mainstream industry got its hands on it (thats how it died, see my first statement)

3. Punk is about the music, the additude AND the clothing

4. Pop punk is a condradiction, it wouldnt really have anything to do with being called punk, more just punk influenced rock

I think thats about it

P.S. I love the irony that, the people from the start were saying how punk was dead and then comes along a guy called Alexisonfire, and he argues that its not dead and stuff. But isnt Alex Is On Fire a punk influenced rock/Screamo band?

Whats the difference?

Punk is about clothing you moron.
And i dont see how my name has anything to do with my opinion.
Its not dead its underground.


EDIT: wait...when i had a poison the well avatar and underoath lyrics in my signature my opinion was more valid just because i had the misfits in my name?

If punk really was more about the attitude and clothing than the music, then fuck it. I like the music, but I'll dress and think however I want to.