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View Poll Results: Sex Pistols vs. Ramones
Sex Pistols 76 41.08%
Ramones 109 58.92%
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Old 04-20-2007, 07:27 PM   #271 (permalink)
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Rotten and the Pistols helped create punk and the revolution, G.G. Allin destroyed it, and I'm going to rebuild it in my own image. Bye bye, Emo.
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Old 04-22-2007, 01:18 AM   #272 (permalink)
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Old 04-24-2007, 07:22 PM   #273 (permalink)
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Let's refocus for a second to what Punk Rock tried to do in the mid 70's...essentially blowup the elitist AOR rock culture which began with Sgt. Pepper. As concept albums became more ambitious and complex, groups became more pompous and out of touch with audiences. Groups were using orchestras, over-dubs, session players, making their music very inaccessible to the up and coming garage bands. So along comes punk, erasing the Classic Rock era, and rewinding music to the late 50's...and era when rock was basic, artists didn't have to record 10 songs for and album and when the vast majority of people bought single 45's, not long playing 33 and a thirds. It was no coincidence that "God Save the Queen", "Pretty Vacant", "Anarchy in the UK", could only be purchased as 45's upon their initial release. Not only did these singles absolutely rock harder than anything since "Live at Leeds", they were also the Pistols attempt to subvert the music industry which pushed "singles" to sell more expensive and more profitable albums. Later the singles were compiled for "Never Mind the Bullocks", and as a result, it sounds like a bunch of singles, not a perfectly selected sequence of tunes, which on the other hand, is exactly the way "Rocket to Russia" plays, making the Ramones much more similar to Classic Rock than the Pistols. This was a profound difference between the two bands...one was a singles bands, the other AOR and AOR ladies and gentlemen, is not punk.
So you're saying... Rocket to Russia is a concept album?

I'd much rather listen to a cohesive album than a shambled mess of singles any day, whether or not it is "true punk."
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Old 04-25-2007, 03:24 PM   #274 (permalink)
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has to be the ramones.
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Old 04-25-2007, 04:33 PM   #275 (permalink)
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Let's refocus for a second to what Punk Rock tried to do in the mid 70's...essentially blowup the elitist AOR rock culture which began with Sgt. Pepper. As concept albums became more ambitious and complex, groups became more pompous and out of touch with audiences. Groups were using orchestras, over-dubs, session players, making their music very inaccessible to the up and coming garage bands. So along comes punk, erasing the Classic Rock era, and rewinding music to the late 50's...and era when rock was basic, artists didn't have to record 10 songs for and album and when the vast majority of people bought single 45's, not long playing 33 and a thirds. It was no coincidence that "God Save the Queen", "Pretty Vacant", "Anarchy in the UK", could only be purchased as 45's upon their initial release. Not only did these singles absolutely rock harder than anything since "Live at Leeds", they were also the Pistols attempt to subvert the music industry which pushed "singles" to sell more expensive and more profitable albums. Later the singles were compiled for "Never Mind the Bullocks", and as a result, it sounds like a bunch of singles, not a perfectly selected sequence of tunes, which on the other hand, is exactly the way "Rocket to Russia" plays, making the Ramones much more similar to Classic Rock than the Pistols. This was a profound difference between the two bands...one was a singles bands, the other AOR and AOR ladies and gentlemen, is not punk.
But on the other hand you could have looked at the Ramones End Of The Century album which is basically them doing 60s bubblegum pop singles with Phil Spector which totally blows a hole in your arguement.
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Old 04-25-2007, 04:35 PM   #276 (permalink)
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End Of The Century is basically the best Ramones album and better then anything i've heard by the Sex Pistols.
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:06 PM   #277 (permalink)
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But on the other hand you could have looked at the Ramones End Of The Century album which is basically them doing 60s bubblegum pop singles with Phil Spector which totally blows a hole in your arguement.
Punk was more than just recording retro-records. The Pistols were fresh because they emphasized 45s and songs with biting social criticism. If an early 60's sound were the sole benchmark for punk, then I'd put the NY Dolls ahead of the Ramones because they recorded "Too Much, Too Soon", back in 1974, with legendary 60's producer, Shadow Morton.
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Old 04-28-2007, 06:06 PM   #278 (permalink)
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punk back then was like about the music and a life style not ripping its apart and anaylising every little aspect of it
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:12 PM   #279 (permalink)
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I voted Ramones. One, they're like my favorite band, and two, I hate the Sex Pistols. Even if the poll was like Black Flag vs. Sex Pistols, or some other band who I haven't heard a whole lot from, I'd vote Black Flag, because I can listen to a whole song by them.
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:03 PM   #280 (permalink)
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Obviouuuusly the Ramones
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