The Official Green Day Thread (single, album, The Ramones, American)

14232949 · 09-13-2011, 01:20 PM

To be totally honest, a lot of us grew up with Green Day, and if you think of all of the bands/artists that you listened to threw adolescence, Green Day are probably one of the better bands.
They're older, less poppy stuff, still sounds good after this time.
I think the problem with Green Day, is that they appealed to us as alienated teens/young adults themselves, and as time passed, they lost that charm.
Ditto, Blink 182.

Metal Connoisseur · 09-21-2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mankycaaant

To be totally honest, a lot of us grew up with Green Day, and if you think of all of the bands/artists that you listened to threw adolescence, Green Day are probably one of the better bands.
They're older, less poppy stuff, still sounds good after this time.
I think the problem with Green Day, is that they appealed to us as alienated teens/young adults themselves, and as time passed, they lost that charm.
Ditto, Blink 182.

I'll admit to listening to green day as a youth, but never Blink 182. Even then I knew the difference between the two, which is most distinguishing with the overall "punk aura" of the bands. I'm aware of the pop-punk sub genre, but how much pop does a band need to use before they are just a pop band with some punk elements?

14232949 · 09-21-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Metal Connoisseur

I'll admit to listening to green day as a youth, but never Blink 182. Even then I knew the difference between the two, which is most distinguishing with the overall "punk aura" of the bands. I'm aware of the pop-punk sub genre, but how much pop does a band need to use before they are just a pop band with some punk elements?

I wasn't comparing Blink and Greenday, I'm was just pointing out that they succumbed to the same fate.
I'm sure Greenday & Blink 182 will still appeal to some, but they had to move away from their original sound in order to remain relevant I believe.

Songs like Time Of Your Life won't have had the same effect if they were being sung by a group of 40 somethings.

I'm not a Blink 182 fan btw, they're cover of Another Girl, Another Planet lead me to dislike them with a passion.

However, I will admit to listen to them whilst growing up, as I did Greenday.

BastardofYoung · 09-13-2011, 02:23 PM

well, I guess this is growing up.

Or maybe they kept the charm and you lost it... the music is your Puff the Magic Dragon.

PerlJammer · 12-05-2011, 04:36 PM

Doesn't this thread belong in the pop section?

TheNiceGuy · 12-20-2011, 03:38 AM

I have to admit that despite not being a great fan of Green Day I really rate American Idiot. Some will disagree but moving Green Day into a more mainstream rock sound was a smart move commercially. But more importantly American Idiot showed some artistic intent which manifested itself by making AI a concept album. It wasn't exceptionally original (they were effectively making a poorer version of The Who's concept albums without Townshend's writing ability) but it showed that these guys had some ambition. And in the end they made a pretty damn good hard rock album with some pop stylings to keep it selling. In my purely subjective opinion I feel that this was better than any pop-punk album they made throughout the nineties (With apologies to Dookie)

That's my brief two cents on the matter.

Howard the Duck · 12-20-2011, 04:09 AM

i quite enjoy Dookie

TheNiceGuy · 12-20-2011, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

i quite enjoy Dookie

It's their best early album imo.

Automaticchaos · 02-02-2012, 06:46 PM

I used to love Green Day. I still do listen to them on a weekly basis, I just don't like what they've done in the last 8 or so years. I hated 21st Century Breakdown and while I don't love American Idiot I don't think it deserves all the hate it seems to get.

Salami · 02-09-2012, 06:18 AM

I'm personally not a fan in any way: I always feel that "Good Riddance" was a complete money-spinning hook to make as many people as possible feel that it applied to them. It's not really original, doesn't really say much since it tries to appeal to as many people as possible and I always find it a little bit insincere as a worn out anthem for leaving high school. If they went any deeper or attached any more meaning to the song, they would have worried about it halving their sales, which of course is not true, since there are many deep and thoughtful popular songs that have managed to be so without really compromising their appeal.
The band's musical prowess is also questionable, which seems to try and copy old school punk a little too much without actually capturing the wryness that the great punk and post punk bands had.

Anyway, that's just a personal dislike, if you love them, whatever floats your boat, I say.

09-13-2011, 02:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	well, I guess this is growing up. Or maybe they kept the charm and you lost it... the music is your Puff the Magic Dragon. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

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TheNiceGuy Living under the bridge Join Date: May 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 317	I have to admit that despite not being a great fan of Green Day I really rate American Idiot. Some will disagree but moving Green Day into a more mainstream rock sound was a smart move commercially. But more importantly American Idiot showed some artistic intent which manifested itself by making AI a concept album. It wasn't exceptionally original (they were effectively making a poorer version of The Who's concept albums without Townshend's writing ability) but it showed that these guys had some ambition. And in the end they made a pretty damn good hard rock album with some pop stylings to keep it selling. In my purely subjective opinion I feel that this was better than any pop-punk album they made throughout the nineties (With apologies to Dookie) That's my brief two cents on the matter. __________________ My Music Review Blog-It's Only Rock 'n' Roll There is no Dark Side of the Moon really, matter of fact it's all dark...

09-13-2011, 01:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	To be totally honest, a lot of us grew up with Green Day, and if you think of all of the bands/artists that you listened to threw adolescence, Green Day are probably one of the better bands. They're older, less poppy stuff, still sounds good after this time. I think the problem with Green Day, is that they appealed to us as alienated teens/young adults themselves, and as time passed, they lost that charm. Ditto, Blink 182.

12-05-2011, 04:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
PerlJammer Groupie Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 18	Doesn't this thread belong in the pop section?

02-02-2012, 06:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
Automaticchaos One crazy motherf*cker Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 103	I used to love Green Day. I still do listen to them on a weekly basis, I just don't like what they've done in the last 8 or so years. I hated 21st Century Breakdown and while I don't love American Idiot I don't think it deserves all the hate it seems to get.

02-09-2012, 06:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
Salami Get in ma belly Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,385	I'm personally not a fan in any way: I always feel that "Good Riddance" was a complete money-spinning hook to make as many people as possible feel that it applied to them. It's not really original, doesn't really say much since it tries to appeal to as many people as possible and I always find it a little bit insincere as a worn out anthem for leaving high school. If they went any deeper or attached any more meaning to the song, they would have worried about it halving their sales, which of course is not true, since there are many deep and thoughtful popular songs that have managed to be so without really compromising their appeal. The band's musical prowess is also questionable, which seems to try and copy old school punk a little too much without actually capturing the wryness that the great punk and post punk bands had. Anyway, that's just a personal dislike, if you love them, whatever floats your boat, I say.