The Official Green Day Thread (lyrics, country, bass, house)

[hookers with machineguns]

Originally Posted by I quite like music, me

Question: What is the point in arguing what category a band fits into, its surely the actual music that they produce which anyone gives half a **** about. Furthermore, style is individual, therefore not everybody's gonna agree. Correct me if i'm wrong anyone, but music isn't about giving names to a certain style, it's about the effect the song has i.e. "That was outragously spiffing old bean, what?" and so on.

I'm not fully aware of your intentions, but I imagine that you say something like this because your exposure to "punk" music does not go beyond that of bands that are of excessive rotation on the radio. Just because an individual cannot associate any given band with a genre does not imply that genre's are unnecessary or "evil" as one person put it. The first step is admitting you know little about a genre, for instance, punk. Whether or not you think Green Day is a good or bad band, I honestly from the bottom of my heart don't care. But when people hype Green Day as a quitessential/important punk band, and makes "tributes" to them, it is a travesty to punk bands you aren't aware of, just because they don't receive mainstream exposure. In conclusion, it is more than okay to like Green Day, but to put them at the top of a genre you probably don't know much about is naive. That is my two cents.

[I quite like music, me]

Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns

I'm not fully aware of your intentions, but I imagine that you say something like this because your exposure to "punk" music does not go beyond that of bands that are of excessive rotation on the radio. Just because an individual cannot associate any given band with a genre does not imply that genre's are unnecessary or "evil" as one person put it. The first step is admitting you know little about a genre, for instance, punk. Whether or not you think Green Day is a good or bad band, I honestly from the bottom of my heart don't care. But when people hype Green Day as a quitessential/important punk band, and makes "tributes" to them, it is a travesty to punk bands you aren't aware of, just because they don't receive mainstream exposure. In conclusion, it is more than okay to like Green Day, but to put them at the top of a genre you probably don't know much about is naive. That is my two cents.

Well allow me to enlighten you as to what my intentions were. My intentions were as follows: to convey my opinion, that i positively do not, give the minutest **** about genre classification, on the firm basis that the individual is capable of independant thought. Therefore, the definition of a certain genre is highly succeptible to a widely varied consensus of opinion, due to the factors which would render a band in a particular genre. Therefore, the word "punk" is in fact interpreted in a variety of ways, accross the spectrum and will never be agreed upon, due to the finer subtleties of what makes music, music. Music is not about what you call it. Its about what it is, to you.

As far as i am concerned, a genre's only use is to relate a word to type of music which is not resolutely agreed upon and never will be, no matter how hard the media try to tell you otherwise.

[ArtistInTheAmbulance]

Originally Posted by I quite like music, me

Music is not about what you call it. Its about what it is, to you.

Good way to look at it, I like that..

Anway, I dont hate Green Day, but I dont like them either. There are aspects of some of their older stuff that I dont mind, but.. I wouldnt choose to listen to them. I think saying how they were the most influential bands of the last however many years is going too far (as someone said earlier in here) I dont see how theyve influenced the music scene that much at all.. But thats just how I see it. Ok, Im done with this thread now, thanks for listening to all that..

[franscar]

Every time I read this thread title it makes me think that maybe, just maybe Green Day have split up. Then I switch on the TV and realise that they're still going.

*sigh*

[I quite like music, me]

Originally Posted by franscar

Every time I read this thread title it makes me think that maybe, just maybe Green Day have split up. Then I switch on the TV and realise that they're still going.

*sigh*

Please, do continue, what is your exact problem with Green Day then sir? It's just that that entire charade was an unintelligent dig at the band with no real purpose, other than to indicate your general disdain for Green Day. If i'm being critical, i'd say it was a complete and utter waste of time, effort and typing. And i am being critical, son.

[ArtistInTheAmbulance]

Originally Posted by I quite like music, me

Please, do continue, what is your exact problem with Green Day then sir? It's just that that entire charade was an unintelligent dig at the band with no real purpose, other than to indicate your general disdain for Green Day. If i'm being critical, i'd say it was a complete and utter waste of time, effort and typing. And i am being critical, son.

He was just saying how he didnt like them. You'll get that a lot here, and wouldnt you rather that? Think about it, how boring would forums on music be if everyone just said "Yes I like this band." Over and over and over and over and over again...

Id get bloody bored.

[I quite like music, me]

Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance

He was just saying how he didnt like them. You'll get that a lot here, and wouldnt you rather that? Think about it, how boring would forums on music be if everyone just said "Yes I like this band." Over and over and over and over and over again...

Id get bloody bored.

And i absolutely agree, however... what i was saying was that this guy dug at the band and that was it. It was the post equivalent to throwing salt into someones eye's, then running away. Listen, i love a good argument mate, why u think i joined this forummy type thing. What do u think i was trying to provoke in response, a dance?

[franscar]

Originally Posted by I quite like music, me

Please, do continue, what is your exact problem with Green Day then sir? It's just that that entire charade was an unintelligent dig at the band with no real purpose, other than to indicate your general disdain for Green Day. If i'm being critical, i'd say it was a complete and utter waste of time, effort and typing. And i am being critical, son.

Fair enough. If you like your music to be derivative, bland and purposeless, then continue to "enjoy" Greenday. And please, don't call me son, you might think it gives you an air of joviality and possibly even superiority, but it doesn't.

Unintelligent and with no real purpose. Good way to describe Green Day actually. Smote that.

[I quite like music, me]

Originally Posted by franscar

Fair enough. If you like your music to be derivative, bland and purposeless, then continue to "enjoy" Greenday. And please, don't call me son, you might think it gives you an air of joviality and possibly even superiority, but it doesn't.

Unintelligent and with no real purpose. Good way to describe Green Day actually. Smote that.

Glady. Firstly, derived from what exactly. Secondly, please elaborate upon just what makes Green Day - an already popular band, therefore one which would have something to lose, produce an album called "American Idiot" - "bland". Thirdly, how can a band just think to themselves, "I know, lets make a song with this exact beat and melody, with these exact lyrics, for abolutely no reason at all. Then we'll sell it for no reason, so people can listen to it for no reason."

Furthermore, you say i might think that calling you "son" gives me an air of, what you so eloquantly described as, joviality and/or superiority. Well yes i might think that, but i don't.

I look forward with utmost eagerness to your next installation, son.

[ArtistInTheAmbulance]

Originally Posted by LedZepStu

dont ask why i was reading smash hits.

I was going to, then I decided against it...