The Official Green Day Thread

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

One of the radio promos here is ADD weekend where the station plays a song and then you can text in to suggest another from the same band. Some brilliant **** had the good foresight to see the stations 21 guns and raise it with a J.A.R. Green Day to me has been the best when they play to the material and not the melody.

I'll admit they shouldn't be penalized for this, Billie Joe has been one of the best melody makers we've had in quite a time. Their recently offerings have been terribad at best, but songs like J.A.R., She, Welcome to Paradise, and Longview are phenominal.

There have been a few of these bands, this hedged-punk movement who've grown up fairly well. They got into someone who was into the message, your singer/songwriters and they wrote about real things. Oddly enough, greenday has always hedged that methodology and its giving us spotty music.

Don't take this as me hating melody, I think when they play Hitchin' a Ride, American Idiot, or Minority its ****ing good, but I wish they'd play more songs where the lyrics were a little more focused, a little more personal.

If I wanted to listen to good-time platitiudes and sing-song melodies I'd throw on some Beatles.

I understand. I don't think it's very often that the lyrics are extremely deep.
The songs themselves mean something sometimes, but the lyrics aren't very new and different.

[RVCA]

I think American Idiot is an excellent album, it just got played to utter death. I'll admit I haven't listened to 21st Century much, and that's because I didn't like what little I've heard.

That being said, I think Green Day was better before the turn of the century. International Superhits was one of the first CDs I ever bought, and it really kind of directed my taste in music as I grew up.

Overall, great band.

[Alex/]

Green Day was the first band I really liked, and they're still one of my favorites. American Idiot is in my top five albums.

It can be sorta rough being a fan of them, most people are quick to judge, because they're tired of hearing "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" and "21 Guns" on the radio.

[TheBig3]

Originally Posted by AwwSugar

I understand. I don't think it's very often that the lyrics are extremely deep.
The songs themselves mean something sometimes, but the lyrics aren't very new and different.

Uh, deep? No I don't think I'd say deep. I agree with you there. But as far as personal goes, you can tell some songs they are writing because they've felt, and some songs they are writing because it sounds pleasent and they needed lyrics.

Originally Posted by Alex/

Green Day was the first band I really liked, and they're still one of my favorites. American Idiot is in my top five albums.

It can be sorta rough being a fan of them, most people are quick to judge, because they're tired of hearing "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" and "21 Guns" on the radio.

Amen to the last part. I'd love a lot of 90's bands a whole lot more if these idiot DJ's with a death grip on their grunge collections were at the controls. We used to have a segment up here called the "grunge plunge" (since I stopped driving I don't know if its still around) and the best part about it was they would play the grunge you never heard on the radio.

As a really brief aside, i'd be fine with never hearing Nirvana on the radio ever again.

[Alex/]

Lyrically, Billie Joe is pretty underrated. I mean, he's not phenomenal or anything, but I'd go so far as to call "Longview" lyrical genius.

Not in like a "deep" Pink Floyd kind of way, but the song is clever, and I think if you're a teenage male, at some point in time that song very well could have been your theme song. Dookie wasn't like these new bands like All Time Low, where they're just catering towards their obnoxious teenage audience. Green Day really were just apathetic ****ing losers with nothing better to do than masturbate and smoke pot. All day long.

It came through in their songwriting in the best kind of way. Of course, then they grew up and their music took on new forms, but you gotta love Dookie.

[sidewinder]

Someone should move this to the rock forum.

[James]

Some time later...............

[sidewinder]

^ Woah. However, it's so blatant I'd put it on the level of a sample used in a hip-hop or electronic song. Or maybe I'm being too nice.

[James]

^You are! I mean it's not like they gave The Kinks any credit.

[TheBig3]

If I were the Kinks I wouldn't want it.

Point blank that song sucks. If they can hijacked "Lola" or "Sunny Afternoon" I'd give it to you, but with warning who cares? I think you believe the world to be too malicious. Tons of people (nerds) commented that it was a lift. There was another band from Ireland or something that sued them first. But the truth is, we know great songs when we hear them.

For god's sake I've heard someone say Buckethead stole "Crazy Train" and called it "Welcome to Buckethead Land." Theft only means the song wasn't good enough to call it yours from the jump.