The Official Pink Floyd Thread (lyrics, psychedelic, rock, great songs)

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by satanic skinhead

You are trying to draw negative attention towards me so people won't notice your lack of positive input. It's not working, we see through you.

Anyway, the water's era music is pompous, pretencious, and least idealogically focussed of all of pink floyd's discography. Sure, they have the most grandiouse "concepts" and "themes" but they also miss the point they are trying to make by the widest margins. The albums look totally inward and make no conclusions. Self pity is not a world changing revalation. "The Division Bell" isn't great, but at least it's honest and looks at the world outside of itself.

If my opinion is different than yours I guess that automatically makes me a troll, huh?

Pretentious troll is pretentious.

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by boo boo

Pretentious troll is pretentious.

Wow best counter-argument ever.

[boo boo]

Because you never make brief snide remarks. EVER.

But seriously are you f*cking kidding me? Like I even have to explain why its pretentious?


Just f*cking look at it.

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by satanic skinhead

You are trying to draw negative attention towards me so people won't notice your lack of positive input. It's not working, we see through you.

What you're doing is not positive imput, you came here to a thread for Pink Floyd fans asking for a fight by saying Pink Floyd are the most overrated band ever and that Waters sucks. Seriously I don't even know how its f*cking possible for someone to like MLOR but call WYWH a bad album. I wouldn't mind if you just expressed your opinion and leaved, but you actually tried to justify it, and that was a very bad mistake.

Anyway, the water's era music is pompous, pretencious,

If you're going to make a post of psuedo intellectual BS straight out of the music critics handbook at least know how to spell pretentious.

and least idealogically focussed of all of pink floyd's discography

This is just HILLARIOUS.

HOW? Are you kidding me? Whats Piper about because no one has ever tried to explain that to me. Maybe because its just the random rantings of a dopehead?

Seriously, if Pink Floyd lacks idealogical focus then I would like to know who in the f*ck actually has it. The themes behind DSOTM, WYWH, Animals and The Wall were pretty clear, I dont care if you don't like those albums but when you're saying they lack focus you're just pulling sh*t out of your ass.

Seriously, if Waters had no focus than what the f*ck was Syd? A man who wrote stuff like this.

I've got a bike
You can ride it if you like
It's got a basket
A bell that rings
And things to make it look good
I'd give it to you if I could
But I borrowed it

Wow, brilliant.

Sure, they have the most grandiouse "concepts" and "themes"

The way you quoted those suggest to me that you must be so stupid that you can't even grasp on to the meaning of Waters' work.

but they also miss the point they are trying to make by the widest margins.

And this you haven't even tried to explain.

How did they miss the point? HOW? I'd say Waters lyrics are pretty f*cking straightforward (a lot more than Syds) to anyone that actually pays attention, seriously, how did DSOTM miss the mark? Explain that to me, I bet this will be hillarious.

The albums look totally inward and make no conclusions.

Yes, stop. STOP RIGHT THERE.

You're making no sense now, but I take it what you meant by that is that it looks at things on a personal level. Somehow this is bad right?

Makes no conclusions?

You don't even know what you're talking about.

And Syd? What was he? The way you're making it out, compared to Waters he was some brilliant social commentator. Hmm....

I want to tell you a story
about a little man if I can.
A gnome named Grimble Crumble.
And little gnomes stay in their homes,
eating, sleeping, drinking their wine.

Who can argue with that?

Self pity is not a world changing revalation.

Its also not a reason Waters era Floyd is "not good".

"The Division Bell" isn't great, but at least it's honest and looks at the world outside of itself.

So you actually prefer lyrics that try to throw in a lot of philosophical stuff about the world without any real personal conviction (Gilmour) to lyrics that handle subject matter in a very raw and personal way? (Waters)

You must be a metalhead.

If my opinion is different than yours I guess that automatically makes me a troll, huh?

No, what makes you a troll is coming to a Pink Floyd thread to say they suck and supporting it by throwing together a bunch of random big words in hopes of confusing us stupid primitive Waters fans. Also you have a username that only supports my accessment.

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Originally Posted by boo boo

Seriously, if Waters had no focus than what the f*ck was Syd? A man who wrote stuff like this.

I've got a bike
You can ride it if you like
It's got a basket
A bell that rings
And things to make it look good
I'd give it to you if I could
But I borrowed it

Wow, brilliant.

He was a man tripping his tits off on acid.

And no matter how 'bad' those lyrics are i'd still rather listen to them than Roger Waters droning on and on about his middle class upbringing.

[ProggyMan]

Originally Posted by satanic skinhead

Sure. Somehow though I was expecting at least a little bit of effort in his responces. Like, maybe making an attempt to start a discussion like I've been doing with all my posts. It's no good, though. Instead I get less than a line in responce, and it's just the same half-thoughts be reiterated again and again. Do you know why that is? It's because this forum sucks. See ya later, losers.

I didn't think it was worth the effort. Your posts were pretty laughable.

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Originally Posted by ProggyMan

I didn't think it was worth the effort. Your posts were pretty laughable.

Well lets have a look at your posts in this thread shall we?

Originally Posted by ProggyMan

I guess you like bland Stadium Rock then...I agree, they're overrated, but way to dislike them for the wrong reasons...

Originally Posted by ProggyMan

You like The Division Bell/etc. and dislike Wish You Were Here. Lol.

Originally Posted by ProggyMan

What do you expect from someone named satanic skinhead?

Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Animals lol.

Originally Posted by ProggyMan

WYWH overplayed>>>Division Bell

That basically amounts to a small smattering of fuck all.
Instead of trying to nit pick holes in other peoples opinions lets see some of yours for a change , or don't you have anything worthwhile to say on the subject?

[ProggyMan]

Pink Floyd: Overrated, yes, but Wish You Were Here is a great album, the Division Bell is not. Animals disproves your point about Waters being self-obsessed.

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Pink Floyd: Overrated, yes,

Why are they over-rated?

but Wish You Were Here is a great album,

Why is it a great album?

the Division Bell is not.

Why not?

Animals disproves your point about Waters being self-obsessed.

My point? I never said he was.

[ProggyMan]

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Why are they over-rated?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]Because other people like them more than I do, and I think they're influence can be overstated.[/COLOR]

Why is it a great album?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]Because it has great songs and a psychedelic, sweeping, yet intimate feel.[/COLOR]

Why not?
Because it's bland Stadium Rock with annoyingly grandiose themes.

My point? I never said he was.
I wasn't arguing with you.

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