The Future of Prog looking forward, Grim?

grindy · 01-07-2016, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

This was all that was said in the first post. The worry that prog's future is looking grim is at least rational. What he said about electronic wasn't.

TR, music is a collaboration of sounds used to create a rhythmatic experience that's pleasing to the ears. But that depends on the ears. What's good is debatable. What is and is not music isa bad way to look at things. Even a guy banging on pots to an uneven tempo and singing off key to a different tempo is still music, but it'll likely suck.

No it's not rational. One has to be pretty clueless about prog, if one thinks there hasn't been awesome stuff constantly released after the seventies.
Even if someone is as incredibly narrow minded as the thread starter, there is still enough RetroProg channelling the good old days to have fun with.

Tributary Records · 01-07-2016, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

No it's not rational. One has to be pretty clueless about prog, if one thinks there hasn't been awesome stuff constantly released after the seventies.
Even if someone is as incredibly narrow minded as the thread starter, there is still enough RetroProg channelling the good old days to have fun with.

I have listened to tons of new stuff actually. We have a label, so we get bombarded with demos and links to soundcloud, bandcamp, itunes etc. I would say for every 100 things I listen to, maybe one sounds like it was a recording of a group of musicians playing music. The rest sounds like digital sound collaging. So that stuff is better to be released by someone who is into that kind of thing. It's just too lifeless and sterile sounding for our tastes.

Are we not allowed an opinion here?

grindy · 01-07-2016, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tributary Records

I have listened to tons of new stuff actually. We have a label, so we get bombarded with demos and links to soundcloud, bandcamp, itunes etc. I would say for every 100 things I listen to, maybe one sounds like it was a recording of a group of musicians playing music. The rest sounds like digital sound collaging. So that stuff is better to be released by someone who is into that kind of thing. It's just too lifeless and sterile sounding for our tastes.

Are we not allowed an opinion here?

Well, it seems your label is attracting the really amateurish stuff.
This might give you some bias, but there has been so, so much great prog released after the seventies.
Sure, have your opinion, but as I said, it seems very narrow minded and clueless.

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

Oops/. I've misread that. Alright, let me change that. If you believe music is subjective, doesn't he have the right to believe modern prog isn't as good? Personally, I'm a little in the middle. Although I like Modern Prog, I think the majority of great prog comes from the early stages. Dream Theater is still one of my favorites. I though their 2000's works were great. I'm looking forward to the new one. But my other favorite prog bands are classic bands like Kansas and Pink Floyd. What genres do you not like? I could disagree.

Everybody has a right to think whatever he wants about music. But this 'modern prog' we are talking about here isn't one monolithic genre. We are talking about thousands and thousands of bands and albums being released in the incredibly long span of over thirty years.
Prog has been and is amazingly varied, more varied than ever actually. If a self-professed prog fan is unable to find lots and lots of stuff he likes in this variety, the fault lies with him, not with the music.

JGuy Grungeman · 01-07-2016, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

Well, it seems your labels is attracting the really amateurish stuff.
This might give you some bias, but there has been so, so much great prog released after the seventies.
Sure, have your opinion, but as I said, it seems very narrow minded and clueless.

Everybody has a right to think whatever he wants about music. But this 'modern prog' we are talking about here isn't one monolithic genre. We are talking about thousands and thousands of bands and albums being released in the incredibly long span of over thirty years.
Prog has been and is amazingly varied, more varied than ever actually. If a self-professed prog fan is unable to find lots and lots of stuff one likes in this variety, the fault lies with him, not with the music.

That's exactly what I was saying in the Boston thread. People's opinions. I never said anything about blaming music. And yes, it is a fault. But it's still an opinion.