Chula Vista

Not exactly prog, but this entire piece was composed and recorded using a sampling keyboard and a computer. Performed entirely by Shawn Lane.

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JGuy Grungeman

As long as people are still buying Pink Floyd, Dream Theater, Rush, prog will still live. Maybe not as successfully, but there's still an audience. I know I like modern prog.

Trollheart

Then why are you here? This is a forum, where we debate issues, and that invariably involves arguing. Also, your thread has a question mark at the end, so you obviously are asking for opinions. Not all of those will agree with yours, ergo, you are here to argue.
You were the one who brought up the idea of electronic music not being genuine. Don't whine now when people take you to task about it. Threads often begin on one subject and veer all over the place, but this isn't OT: You brought it up.
You really need me to tell you that, when there are extremely talented musicians here who use computers in their music??
Please stop using this as an example. Nobody is saying that music made by stitching together samples of other people's music is superior to or even equal to making it on your own, but bands have been doing this since sampling became popular. Remember Art of Noise?
Check the music in YorkeDaddy or Plainview's sig, and see if you can maintain your superior attitude.
Are you being deliberately obtuse, or jsut refusing to see that your argument has been destroyed? I already told you, the guys who make electronic music here PLAY THEIR INSTRUMENTS --- REAL INSTRUMENTS --- AND THEN copy/paste it as they need to. Do I have to repeat that? Please stop this mantra about "music pasted on computer is not real music": you're missing (deliberately or accidentally) the real point. Please acknowledge which it is, as though I'm not an electronic musician and considered by some close-minded , you're annoying me and giving prog rock fans a bad name with your trenchant opinions and pontificating. It's embarrassing. If you want to have a proper debate, acknowledge that you're starting off from a false premise.

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grindy

It sure counts, but I'd prefer an original composition.
And while I dig some 8-bit stuff, I'd like my electronic prog with a more nuanced sound.

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JGuy Grungeman

"original" as in new bands.

Trollheart

Well for my money the phrase "not here to argue" indicates a few things: a) hes lost the debate but doesn't want to admit that and so is kind of running off without settling it or admitting defeat b) he has no further fuel for his argument or c) he's a little overwhelmed by the response he got. His thread is in itself a question, and he was the one who loudly proclaimed that the creation of music on or with computers was not "real" music. He's abjectly failed to back this up or argue conclusively, refusing to provide samples even though asked to do so repeatedly (he didn't have to insert the videos, he could have just linked to them. Surely any exposure is good exposure for these artists?) instead falling back on repeating the same points over and over, like a child with its fingers stuck in its ears.

And since you ask, he said in the OP he runs a prog record label or store, so he's more than familiar with musicians I would say, which is another reason why I find his high-handed attitude very annoying. It comes across as the worst accusation levelled at prog down the years, that of being pretentious and arrogant, thinking yourself better than others. This is definitely, without question, the impression he gives me. Don't know about you.

But come on: if you start an argument/debate/discussion, finish it or at least admit defeat.

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Neapolitan

That is so fighting Irish for you to say. Why not just come to an understanding that there is a difference of opinion?

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Trollheart

Come over here an' say that!

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Chula Vista

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Neapolitan

Thanks a lot, I think you chased him off before I brought the idea of making T-shirts with Prog bands like Egg, Uriah Heep, or Starcastle - something artsy. There has to be a market for that stuff.

I wonder if he did work for "Tributary Records", and what he thought of us. I did look at one site that was called "Tributary Records" and it only had "Holy Santos Gang" and "Rockin' Rudy" as artist. Discog the only artist I found signed to Tributary Records was "Black Miss." I wonder if there are more than one "Tributary Records." I didn't see Prog bands listed on those two sites. Youtube was different there is a Tributary Records channel; it has very few videos, like only three at the moment.

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