Trollheart

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We have the massive drag factor of Irish Trad to contend with. Not much call for Irish prog, though I'm going to say there are one or two bands, whose names escape me at the moment. Plus, it's hard to concentrate on twenty-minute keyboard solos when it's your round. I'm sure I've heard tell though. Unless that was that time I was captured by the Little People and held until ... but that's another story.
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Nothing wrong with neoprog...

Isn't Lija or something, the one who's always on about the Eurovision, Swedish?

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The Batlord

Might be the other person I was thinking of, the first being Tore.

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Trollheart

Oh yeah, I forgot him. Norwegian, isn't he? And don't we have a Dane here somewhere? Or is that MicShazam? Damn Scandinavians: confusing me with their three countries that are kind of all one....

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The Batlord

That was literally the entire reason this conversation started. Are you going senile?

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Trollheart

What do you mean, "going"???

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Trollheart

Vambo, you reveal yourself as one of those insufferable prog snobs that hang out at ProgArchives, who believe nothing after 1976 is prog or worth talking about, and are permanently mired in the seventies. Do you own a cape?

I can understand people not liking, say, Marillion, but for one to call them talentless, as one member over there did, is pretty stupid. There are plenty of bands I don't rate but I'd never call them talentless. Not saying you do, but I get the feeling you may agree with the sentiment. If I'm wrong, fair enough, I apologise, but your comment about neo-prog leads me to believe I'm correct.

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Frownland

Anyone can play an instrument or write a song, those things are not talent. Making great music is talent, and great music is very subjective, so it's well within reason to say that Marillion isn't talented if you rightly think they're garbage.

Oh and neoprog doesn't mean new prog. It means that tepid new agey bull****.

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The Batlord

If I can tie a cherry stem into a knot with my tongue that's a talent. Not a particularly good talent, but a talent nonetheless. If someone can play a guitar at all, that's a talent, and so is being able to play a guitar well. It's not a talent that necessarily makes them talented at making music, but it is a talent.

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Frownland

No I won't give into these people's mind games where they try to get you to admit that a ****ty band that they like is good in at least one way because they lack the confidence to have opinions without other people validating them.

I bet the argument originates back to peasants talking **** on symphonies.

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The Batlord

There are more than enough ways to **** on prog heads without denying the dictionary. But on the other hand everybody's got talents of some sort, but I'm not gonna call them talented as that would detract from people who deserve to be called talented. I'd say that Genesis are talented players (I guess, I'm not a good judge of that), but I wouldn't call them particularly talented since they come up too short in other important ways that are essential to being a talented artist. Like making music that doesn't suck.

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