What are you listening to --- Prog/Psych Version

**Frownland** · 07-27-2017, 04:20 PM

Magma is goddamned life. Definitely dig through the rest of the discography and hit up Ruins if you want a punkier zeuhk approach.

**Frownland** · 07-27-2017, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

That's all down to your own interpretation of what's tepid and new-age. I'm just pointing out there's a lot more to it than you were willing to admit. As usual, cherry-picking, but whatev, what do I care?

No, there really isn't more to neoprog (which I should clarify is not synonymous with modern prog) than tepid new age crap and nothing you've said here has disproved that.

Trollheart · 07-27-2017, 04:23 PM

I suppose the point is that there are all kinds of prog. Some people like the original 70s more spacey/folky/English prog, while others prefer the newer stuff. And some people, like me, like both, but not all of the bands in either. I still can't get into IQ, working on Spock's Beard, have a love/hate relationship with Pallas, like It Bites (even if they're more prog pop) and keep coming across good new prog bands every week.

Trollheart · 07-27-2017, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

No, there really isn't more to neoprog (which I should clarify is not synonymous with modern prog) than tepid new age crap and nothing you've said here has disproved that.

In your opinion.

**Frownland** · 07-27-2017, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

In your opinion.

Not the new age element, but the rest is blatantly an opinion so I don't need to add that redundant ass bit to make your butt a little less hurt.

Mondo Bungle · 07-27-2017, 04:44 PM

holy explosion this is some mad prog

Trollheart · 07-27-2017, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Not the new age element, but the rest is blatantly an opinion so I don't need to add that redundant ass bit to make your butt a little less hurt.

There is nothing remotely new age about prog, neo or otherwise.

And now I'm done wasting my time talking to you.

Vambo, can you guide me to some good VDGG albums? I really should start checking their stuff out properly. As a matter of interest, how do you stand on Marillion? Are you a fan, casual listener, can't stand them, what? I personally love just about every album with the exception of Somewhere Else (though I'm naturally a big fan of the Fish era, all four albums) and I have yet to listen to Fuck Everyone And Run, though I thought Sounds That Can't Be Made was a little overstretched in some areas.

As for Pendragon, my latest interest, that goes (so far; I'm still listening to all their albums) like this: Believe > Men Who Climb Mountains > Pure > Not Of This World > The Masquerade Overture > Passion > everything else I have yet to listen to. Wasn't sold on the debut though.

You want to try to get me into GG or ELP I'm open to recommendations, but don't expect miracles. Nice to get to talk to a proper prog head, I must say.

**Frownland** · 07-27-2017, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

There is nothing remotely new age about prog, neo or otherwise.

You seriously believe this?

There's nothing new agey about this song by a neoprog giant? That doesnt even catch all of the dimensions of what I'm referring to.

New age is a music genre. It's not an insult unless you (correctly) think that new age is a bad thing to be associated with.

Trollheart · 07-27-2017, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You seriously believe this?

There's nothing new agey about this song by a neoprog giant? That doesnt even catch all of the dimensions of what I'm referring to.

New age is a music genre. It's not an insult unless you (correctly) think that new age is a bad thing to be associated with.

Don't be ridiculous. There's nothing new age about that, no more than there is about Journey, REO or any other AOR band, or even any rock band. Even if there were, this is one song. I don't listen to DT but even I know all of their music does not sound like this. Just because it has piano and acoustic guitar in it, and sounds a little relaxing, it's new age to you? Get out.

Check the definition again, paying careful attention to the first two paragraphs, and then tell me how that song fulfils any of the criteria listed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Age_music

**Frownland** · 07-27-2017, 06:32 PM

Omfg you know I meant muzak type **** you dense twat.

I never said all prog is new agey. That would be inherently wrong. This isn't even about your **** tsste in prog, it's about neoprog in general.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Magma is goddamned life. Definitely dig through the rest of the discography and hit up Ruins if you want a punkier zeuhk approach. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	I suppose the point is that there are all kinds of prog. Some people like the original 70s more spacey/folky/English prog, while others prefer the newer stuff. And some people, like me, like both, but not all of the bands in either. I still can't get into IQ, working on Spock's Beard, have a love/hate relationship with Pallas, like It Bites (even if they're more prog pop) and keep coming across good new prog bands every week. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

07-27-2017, 06:32 PM	#90 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Omfg you know I meant muzak type ** you dense twat. I never said all prog is new agey. That would be inherently wrong. This isn't even about your ** tsste in prog, it's about neoprog in general. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x