Trollheart

Ah, I see. As a mod, you're allowed to hurl personal insults, but I'm not? Good to know. Good to know.

You presented that song as an example of new age. It isn't new age. You called all neo prog new age. It ain't. I also don't see why you say the bolded: the original question was about prog in general, which certainly takes in personal tastes. It was you who made the pithy, disparaging and ill-informed and badly-backed-up insult, not me. So you're the one swinging the thread off topic pal.

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Trollheart

... and back on topic we go.

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Frownland

TH, you're clearly defending it because you're defending your taste given that you enjoy quite a bit of tepid, new agey neoprog. That's why I brought up your taste.

And note the following sentence. Repeat it to yourself until you understand it.

Another example of what I'm talking about is most anything Devin Townsend.

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Trollheart

Very little I listen to is new age, and certainly no prog that I'm aware of.
And thanks for repeating the personal insult. Once more and I'm reporting you, you nasty person. I'm getting a little tired of you flaunting the rules and thinking you're above them just because you're a mod. You're not: it's not one rule for mods and one for everyone else. Don't call me a twat again. I'm not remotely joking.

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vambo

I am MORE than a proper proghead.
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My fav Gentle Giant lp is the third, "Three Friends" which has the BEST ending in all prog (better even than "Suppers Ready" or Lighthouse Keepers"). A complex bass line with big churchy-sound. (In his prog book, Macan is correct to say the best prog epics employed secular musics for their build-ups.).

Most proggers rate other lps (like Octopus & Power & Glory) over 3 Friends ,but not I. Three Friends has a good concept of 3 aging childhood friends who have not seen each other for decades and who re-live school memories by going through their old school. One became a poor struggling artist, one a labourer and one a rich & powerful man.
I love the last line:

"Once three friends/ Sweet in sadness/ now part of their past/In the end/Went from CLASS to CLASS."

The Batlord

I like how this thread is progressing.

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Frownland

Sigh. Let me know if you want to consider any point that I've made if you tire of zeroing on my wording and densely ignoring the actual meaning of what I'm trying to communicate to you. Mash dat report button.

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Trollheart

You are, again, wrong. I'm not in any way defending anything. I already made it clear, over the years we've been sparring, that I accept that you, and others, don't like my music taste, and that's fine. I'm not trying to defend my music. I'm pointing out that you are wrong when you describe it as new age, because it is not. That's all.
Another example of you being wrong. Admittedly, I have not heard too much Townsend, but while what I have heard has been typically overproduced to death, it couldn't remotely be called new age, nor muzak. Basically, can you imagine it playing in lifts/elevators? If not then it ain't new age, or what I take new age to be, given the definition already cited and what I have personally heard of new age music (Stephen Cadell, Eddie Jobson (that name may be wrong, it's a long time since I heard the one song, "Endless Dream" but it was Eddie something), Solar Fields, Andrew Miles, Gandalf, even Vangelis maybe, perhaps JMJ...)

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Trollheart

I've already addressed your points, many times. You're the one who wants to stoop to petty insults. You do you. But don't call me names again. It's annoying and tiresome, and you don't do it to anyone else. I know you mean it, which is why I am considering reporting you. I've never reported anyone in my six years here, but you're getting close.

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