My band's latest jam album
 

Hi! We are currently working to perfect our written songs, but in the meantime, we are releasing our jams totally free.

To listen, just click the image in my signature. Let me know what you think! Thanks.

Word to the wise: read the Welcome thread. You're not allowed to advertise your own music here --- free or otherwise --- till you've been here a decent amount of time.

Ahh, my apologies, I was looking for a rule thread in the stickies (and now I see it above the fold).

Apparently you can't delete your own threads, so I'll have to wait for a mod.

y'know... I will personally allow this, assuming you're not just here to promo your stuff. Plus, your post history doesn't seem too spammy. Since you're honest about having this thing deleted, I'll take you at your honesty that you're also here to contribute. If you're not, I'll assume you're honest enough to say so upfront. If you do say that you're only really interested in promoting your band, then I will delete the thread.

Don't be sneaky.

Thank you Dali; I do intend to contribute long-term.

I don't deny that I am also interested in building a fan base, but our style is more grassroots promotion than spamming in the first place and I think contributions beyond that are a necessary obligation.

We have plenty contributing members here that post their music. The difference is that they're contributing members first, band promoters second. If you follow that strategy, you'll be fine. Just know that we're very experienced in understanding the difference here...

I'd also like to say that your band is pretty good. I like it. Thanks for sharing.
If you guys ever want any free mastering done, hit me up.

Hey thanks!

Oh man, we would love free mastering. Sometimes I'm not sure we know what we're doing with recording.

PM me whenever you like. I do mixing/mastering as a hobby, and while I've only been doing it serious for like 4 or 5 years (but producing since around 1999), it's still a hobby, so I'm always looking for material to practice with, which is why I do it for free.
The client is never expected to pay for or use the product if they don't want, so there are no strings. Most times the folks I mix or master are pleased with the result, as I mainly do it for those who don't have the money to go to the pros, so we both benefit.

Thanks, much appreciated. As a hobby masterer, do you have any caveats for recording that you come across when mixing and think "I wish they wouldn't have done that..."

Yea, people have a tendency to record too hot. I noticed it in a couple of your songs. Basically, this is recording into a digital recording medium where certain parts exceed 0db, and you get a really nasty distortion sound. This can't be removed, and is often exacerbated during mastering because of compression and limiting. Most mastering engineers will mandate that the tracks that have overlimited be re-recorded, but then again, most mix engineers worth their salt won't ever let that happen to begin with.

So, the biggest thing would be to record each element where the highest peak is well below 0 decibels on the mixer, specifically in digital world. Ideally the entire track when I receive it should be peaking no more than -6db. But the recording phase is most important, because if say, a bass is recorded too hot and overlimits, but everything else is fine, and upon mixdown the stereo bus isn't too hot, that recorded overlimit of the bass will still be there and you'll still hear the nasty distortion. Because it was recorded into the track and can't be taken out, even if the volume of the recorded track is reduced.

Another one is mix engineers putting a lot of compression on the master bus. This gets exaggerated a lot during mastering, and most mastering engineers will ask for another version with no compression (or anything else) on the master bus. This is a lot easier to manage than the previous issue, because it just requires the disabling of effects on the stereo channel rather than re-recording an instrument. (I didn't notice this problem with your songs)

Those are really the main two things, other than the main volume at the stereo summing bus being too hot and not allowing enough headroom for the mastering engineer. Your songs don't have that problem. I can tell just by the level at which I needed to listen to them at.

Your songs weren't mixed great, but they're legible and they fit to a style, so that's personal preference. My only beef is the overlimits on some of the instruments on some songs. That can't be taken out, so any amount of mastering is only going to make it more apparent. Whether that's acceptable or not as an average of how much better the song sounds as a whole is really the thing, but no professional audio engineer is going to take a recording/mixing engineer seriously if they record instruments too hot and creating digital distortion, and it's negative for the listener as well.

HTH

Thanks, that's really helpful for studio recording.

I'm not sure if we have much of a choice with our live jams. We use a recorder with two mics on it, and we just set the amplifier levels as best we can to match the drums. We have no idea of ideal mic placement, but we've been experimenting.

I wasn't aware it was a live recording. That's pretty damn good if you ask me.

Ah, yes, we're a improv band; We mostly just pick up the instruments, hit record, and start messing around with sounds.

We are looking to do a studio recording, but we have to practice more and stop spending so much time free-styling, hehe.

To help out a fellow proghead, and assuming your music is decent (which if FD says it is it must be) I'll offer to review it for you in my journal (one of them, anyway!) :laughing: Let me know if you want me to do that.

Absolutely! It would be appreciated. We're always looking for feed back; nothing is in stone.

Keep up the good work man, you guys are a good bunch of improvisers. You've got a cool modern Floyd vibe going.

Wow, thanks! I sometimes cry myself to sleep at night because I'm not David Gilmour :P

Ok, so now it's gone in your sig. I listened to a minute or two of it last week, but wasn't sure if you'd be getting the banhammer or not, so I didn't waste too much time on it. Now that you've proven you are a contributor, I was gonna have a closer look.

Need linkage.

Hrm, yeah, that's strange. The link is still there in the code, it's just not coming through the image anymore. Here you go:

https://luopgarou.bandcamp.com/album...ortation-tapes

Got it. Thanks. Listening now...

Not bad for a live setting. It's definitely jam band-ish, but there's also an added element with the organ (which I'm assuming is you), that gives it a "Doors" quality.

Thanks for listening. I usually play keys, but we pass instruments around a lot too. In Magnum Opus, for instance, I'm on bass and the drummer is on keys, the bassist is on guitar, and a guitarist is on drums :P.

Here's a couple new jams, thanks to Freebase Dali for the mixing and cleaning up. These aren't released on our bandcamp site, they're only for grassroots promotion.

On these jams, I put down the keys and picked up the guitar, so no keys here. There's a bit of a metal flavor to it:

Flight 370 (featuring Alan Watts):


Cetacea:


Lepidoptera:


Egyptania:




Feel free to give constructive criticism! Thanks for listening!

Xurtio, as I understand all album is Live Improvisation?

Yes, though Alan Watts quotes were added later. Still waiting on permission from his son before we really promote it and officially release it.

It's a good thing the name "Cetacea" doesn't have a copywrite on it too.

http://www.planktonsodyssey.com/reso...01+Cetacea.mp3

:thumb:

:P It's a great word!

So we've been recording a studio album with the help of Freebase Dali's mixing and we're now entering one of our songs into a contest! Have a listen to it (as well as submissions from other entrants) and vote on your favorite:

https://www.talenthouse.com/i/318/su...25329/b8ffdeaf