Define "prog-lite"

Lisnaholic · 07-14-2018, 08:31 AM

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I'm not knowledgeable enough to work out exactly what "prog-lite" could be, but, apart from the bands already mentioned, I would've included The Moody Blues and Audience I think:-

rubber soul · 07-14-2018, 08:42 AM

This confuses me too. Would New Age qualify as "prog-lite?"

Lisnaholic · 07-14-2018, 09:27 AM

^ Well, for me at least, rubber soul, New Age has a sound that's very distinct from prog. Even prog-lite has a musical complexity that is designed to engage you intellectually and keep you on your toes a little. To my mind, the aim of New Age is to soothe the troubled soul or, to put it brutally, to send you to sleep.

Anteater · 07-14-2018, 12:48 PM

There has been a fair helping of bands or individuals who have crossed prog over into New Age: Mike Oldfield, Iona and the Ozric Tentacles on their slower cuts are a few that come to mind. That album Ghost by Devin Townsend has some extensive prog-meets-New Age chops too.

Trollheart · 07-14-2018, 02:18 PM

Prog-lite (also known as Prog Pop)

In answer to the original question, Kansas, Boston, et al? No. Some are AOR, some are Pomp Rock, but none would, in my opinion, qualify as vaguely prog, not even lite. Whatever it may end up being accepted as being.

My own definition would be music that has prog sensibilities but leans in a more pop direction, perhaps even a rock direction, but where the prog is less pronounced than in your basic prog bands. Not so much of the noodling, longer suites, acoustic guitar or flute solos, and with more down-to-earth lyrics generally. I'd say Genesis from about 1981 onwards might qualify as prog-lite.

**Frownland** · 07-14-2018, 02:38 PM

Kansas is prog.

Trollheart · 07-14-2018, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Kansas is prog.

I stand corrected. I don't know them that well anyway, but I would have thought they were more pomp rock, with the likes of Magnum. Progarchives, however, agrees with you.

rubber soul · 07-14-2018, 03:26 PM

Styx is considered prog too but Kansas are musical geniuses compared to them

Anteater · 07-14-2018, 04:18 PM

Kansas are definitely progressive rock, at least up until around 1981-83 before they went full AOR.

Trollheart · 07-14-2018, 04:40 PM

07-14-2018, 08:31 AM	#21 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	( https://www.musicbanter.com/games-li...litz-game.html ) I'm not knowledgeable enough to work out exactly what "prog-lite" could be, but, apart from the bands already mentioned, I would've included The Moody Blues and Audience I think:- __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

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Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	^ Well, for me at least, rubber soul, New Age has a sound that's very distinct from prog. Even prog-lite has a musical complexity that is designed to engage you intellectually and keep you on your toes a little. To my mind, the aim of New Age is to soothe the troubled soul or, to put it brutally, to send you to sleep. __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

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Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Prog-lite (also known as Prog Pop) In answer to the original question, Kansas, Boston, et al? No. Some are AOR, some are Pomp Rock, but none would, in my opinion, qualify as vaguely prog, not even lite. Whatever it may end up being accepted as being. My own definition would be music that has prog sensibilities but leans in a more pop direction, perhaps even a rock direction, but where the prog is less pronounced than in your basic prog bands. Not so much of the noodling, longer suites, acoustic guitar or flute solos, and with more down-to-earth lyrics generally. I'd say Genesis from about 1981 onwards might qualify as prog-lite. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Kansas is prog. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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