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The Nice Thoughts of Emerlist DavJack 1967 Flower King of Flies Feel good music, nice tone and effects. Pretty sweet song, actually. 9/10 Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack That twinkly effect they have in the beginning hurts my ears, aside from that it was an alright song. Wouldn't bitch if it was on, but wouldn't get it for myself. 5/10 Bonnie K This is straight up rockin blues, just a good ****in song and I think most people could appreciate it. 10/10 Rondo Fun, totally has a rollercoaster/ carnival ride vibe goin on. Marching keys being played and disorienting production to emphasize it. 7/10 Tantalising Maggie Strange, very cool song. Lots of unusual spacing and effects here. 8/10 Dawn Really eerie intro I loved it. Vocals are a whisper and it works great, reminds me of The Central Scrutinizer. Good song, overall very campy-eerie in a good way. 9/10 The Cry of Eugene Very chill, good for a long and even-paced drive on a sunny day. 7/10 Brings that album to a technical total of 7.8/10, but if I were gonna factor in general flow and cohesiveness, I'd bump it up to a 8.5/10. Really great stuff! Will look into more Nice. |
Wow Carpe, You continue to surprise me. In all good ways.
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Normally this system of review for the three albums put forth, each person chooses just one to review. But if anybody wants to review all three they can, but for this the albums should run another week to give everybody time to review all three.
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Cool! I like that.
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In that case the deadline should be extended to say Sunday 15.
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Album Title: Thoughts of Emerlist DavJack Year: 1967 Flower King of Flies - I first found the live version and the high-end was very muddy in it between the guitar and crashes, the vocals were ok. But once I found the studio version, I was more impressed. The vocals were much better, The lead guitar was fun. In the live version, the leads reminded me a lot of early Pink Floyd’s David Gilmour (very much like his leads in Obscured by Clouds), but didn’t really tell a story. In the studio version, I didn’t even notice a lead. The Thoughts Of Emerlist Davjack - Major mode, bright chords, “ba-ba-ba-ing”, twinkle keys. Very classic psychedelic pop, not particularly appealing to me (I always preferred Waters to Barrett). Bonnie K - I immediately loved the upbeat introduction. Very classic rock feel, the vocals make me feel like I’m unloading from a chopper in Vietnam in the movie Platoon. I think it’s because the vocals have some similarities with Creedence Clearwater Revival. Rondo - Probably unnecissarily long. There’s a couple of neat keyboard riffs and the galloping beat feels like you’re getting somewhere, but also a lot of meandering that made me kind of impatient. The keyboard gets pretty awesome with some blues organ aroun 3:45 leading to a cute little break into the first couple measures of Bach’s Fugue in D minor and then more organ rock. But the galloping… it never stops. War n Peace - Nice little groovy breakdown. The keys are unremarkable in the first movement, the guitar picks up the pace a bit, it gets a bit sloppy in parts with wobbly chromatic hammeron bends flying everywhere before tying back into a more remarkable keyboard lead and the back into the groove and ending shortly after a nice organ breakdown at the climax. Tantalising Maggie - Vocals are deliberately belligerent in tone and I find it kind of grating. Mission accomplished, boys. Also, they didn’t cut the pops from the p sounds which makes it even worse. Didn’t get through this one. Dawn - Interesting enough; I like the way the avante-garde break goes into a little groove with the twinkle keys. The whispering and heavy breathing is kind of overdone and the twinkle keys get annoying, but I liked the groove. The Cry of Eugene - Back into some classic psychedelia. Nice lingering dissonant notes and good vocal melody on some marching band drums (cue the horns), then some rock guitar. At this point, I realized they were British. I had actually thought they were American for some reason looking at the CD cover. Overall, good music, I haven’t listened to much Emerson, Lake & Palmer, I might have to now. 6/10 |
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I've owned this album a long time, and in all honesty I don't think it's influence on prog bands of the 70's can be understated. Vocalist Roger Chapman in particular is considered to be a huge influence on Peter Gabriel, Van Der Graaf Generator and also the band Gentle Giant. He may sound like an electrified billy goat, but he stands out so strongly that you can't help but hear strains of him in everything that would come afterwards. Hell, this album beats out In The Court Of The Crimson King by nearly twelve months, yet you can hear so many little touches that characterize the genre in these fifteen songs, especially on strange, Mellotron drenched cuts like 'Mellowing Grey' or the bizarre instrumental experimentation of 'Voyage'. Riveting stuff! While this isn't an album I revisit all too often due to only being able to handle so much Roger Chapman at one time (lol!), this is definitely essential listening for any aspiring proghead, if for nothing else the fact you'll get some perspective on where the genre began to coalesce into something recognizably its own. 10/10 |
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The first thing that always strikes me about early Procul Harum, is just how laid back their early prog style recordings were. Their debut album had to be one of the most laid back albums that came under the prog label. The album is a mesh of psychedelic rock with classical influences, underpinned by the bands bluesy roots. There are various versions of this album (different track selections) but I've gone with the original UK release which starts with the excellent "Conquistador" and other great tracks on the album in the Procul Harum style include the engaging "Something Following Me" the dominant piano on "Christmas Camel" the flowing "Kaleidoscope" and Michael Fisher's organ on "Repent Walpurgis". Also some versions of the album have the band's most famous track as well "A Whiter Shade of Pale". Like a lot of early prog recordings, a light and somewhat jokey track was usually included and here it's the short "Mabel" and to a degree as well "Good Captain Clack" similar in nature to Pink Floyds "Corporal Clegg". The vocals of Gary Brooker is one of the album's strongpoints as is the tasteful guitar of Robin Trower. Gary Brooker sounds very similar to Steve Winwood, but whereas I don't really like Steve Winwood's vocals, I really like those of Gary Brooker. 4.0/5 |
Moss, you are up next for albums. Give us some good choices. :)
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Ok, a couple I have been meaning to check out that I think qualify as Prog although the second one may be more fusion?
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And just to confuse people further, a few thoughts on Procol Harum: This is one of those albums I would not have really thought of as being in the prog category although I can see why it could fit there. It does mix classical, blues and other elements all together. If I was asked I would describe it as bluesy psychedelia maybe? To start with, I am a huge fan of Robin Trower’s solo work so have always been a bit disappointed that his guitar sound is not more up front in the mix and more prominent. Certainly his tone is a bit different than what you would here in his solo work later on but still a nice sound. But having said that, this album still has some very tasty guitar work throughout. A song like “Cerdes” really makes the album for me and I think it’s one of the stronger tracks. Good bluesy rock and Trower shows some of that sweet vibrato work and that amazing phrasing style you would hear later on. You could hear a band like the Allman brothers covering Cerdes quite easily. In fact I would love to hear what Greg Allman could do with that one. As has already been said, Gary Brooker sounds quite a bit like Steve Winwood but different enough to be distinct. He has a great voice. A few thoughts on other songs: Conquistador - Not a big fan of this studio version after hearing the more rocking live versions they did. I think it works well at a faster tempo. Great song and not a surprise it was one of the bigger hits. Whiter shade of pale: Great song, hugely influential i think. Never been one of my favorites. Good Captain Clack - Kind of like a Monty Python song or something. A little bit of a throwaway maybe? Mabel - Another throwaway sounding song. Repent Walpurgis - whiter shade of pale like but with sweet guitar Overall: Strong melodies, good variety, good songs, and Robin Trower. 4.0/5 |
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The dodgy recording quality of those early albums aside, its hard to go wrong with anything Soft Machine did between '68 and 1979. Being the more experimental of the two Wilde Flowers offshoot bands (the other being Caravan), it goes without saying that The Soft Machine was going to be an interesting beginning one way or another, particularly in light to the jazz-fusion they would become infamous for in the early 70's and beyond. Even with these considerations in mind though, these guys early "psychedelic" period is a fun place to check in. Wyatt gets to strut his stuff around, his feathery voice constantly in step with Mike Ratledge's stupendous fuzzboxed organ work: his brief forays into dissonance on groovy cuts like 'Hope For Happiness' and 'Joy For A Toy' are, in a word, inspiring to the ear. Or at least I've always thought so. Hell, I owe these guys for introducing me to the more experimental side of rock and jazz in general (though I'm surprised this managed to chart as well as it did: just goes to show you how different the times were). Great album in any case though, and I'm glad I spent some more time with it. My choice for the first single honestly would have been 'Why Are We Sleeping' over 'Joy For A Toy' though. The woozy chorus line is typical of the period, but that counterpoint rhythm coupled with those Alan Rickman-esque spoken word interludes should have at least provided some novelty oomph for whatever passed for Top Of The Pops in 1968. Oh well... While I wouldn't use The Soft Machine as a basis of comparison against Third, Fourth or even the Allan Holdsworth-led Bundles, I highly recommend it to progfans everywhere. 85/100 |
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Ok, I won't lie. I have a bias towards guitar and hearing Allan Holdsworth had anything to do with Soft Machine piqued my interest. But outside of that I have certainly heard people talk about them over the years so this was a good chance to check it out. Although I did get them confused with Soft Boys for awhile which is silly but there you go. I did the customary Wiki search to find out a little bit and the "canterbury scene" was mentioned which I did not know much about. But anyways. I really like this album after even one listen. I could just picture these guys playing at the famous UFO club. And what a perfect band to back up Syd Barret on some of his solo stuff. So as far as this album. I liked many things about it. The free jazz sound of So Boot if at all. We did it again is just hypnotic and ends up being like a mantra. Love the bass playing through wah-wah on Joy of a toy. Hope for Happiness would not be out of place on a Deep Purple album. Why are we sleeping could sit comfortably on a Nick Cave album. I love that it is a continuous suite of music. Very trippy, very of (and ahead of) it's time but in a good way. Sad to hear Kevin Ayers died last year. Definitely want to hear more of these guys. So that is my stream of conciousness on this one. At the end of the day, I want this on vinyl and will listen to it again. 80/100 |
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I was trying to think if I ever heard anything by the band before and I think the answer might have been no and when I heard that the album was an instrumental I was less than thrilled. The Soft Machine album I know very well so went with this one. Firstly the album was far more intense and bombastic than I was thinking it would be and this went down a treat with the jazz-fusion style on the album as well. In fact its this jazz-fusion style blended with a Jimi Hendrix style of hard rock that is the key to the album for me. Musically parts of the album reminded me of the type of intensity that King Crimson would later put down on Red and its this intensity with precision that really impressed me with MO and on the first listen I liked the album, but on the second listen I really liked it and found it very impressive. Finally I never knew that Jan Hammer (Miami Vice) was involved with this band and as a footnote this sounds just like the kind of band that should've appeared on Woodstock (even though) that well known concert was a few years before this release. 4.5/5 |
Awesome reviews guys. Lets see who is next on the list...
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Whoa, I can safely say I have not heard those. Looking forward to them. And thanks for making it so easy!
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I purposely gave it a listen before trying to get any information about the musicians involved and I’m glad I did. The first thing I thought upon listening was it had some Zappa influence. So it was no surprise to find out there was a Zappa connection with these guys. It was also clear from the first listen that drums and keyboards were the featured instrumentation even without knowing anything about the musicians involved. I never know what to think about albums like this. I can appreciate it from an artistic perspective and there is a clear high level of musicianship going on here. Maybe that should be enough? But there is an entire world full of amazing musicians so what is it that would make me come back to this? Or maybe I’m not expected to come back to this? There is variety to spare so there is nothing boring about the album. It appeals to the technical musician side of me but I don’t really form any kind of emotional connection with it and I guess that’s the part I struggle with. I don’t come away with any particular melodies stuck in my head. I don’t understand a word of what anybody is saying in the few cases where there are lyrics except the kids voice or whatever at the beginning and end. And to be honest , I don’t really know if that was meant to be funny or what was going on there. I’m not saying I have to form an emotional connection with an album but I have to feel something. It’s very possible that these guys are just so beyond me musically that I just don’t get it. I might appreciate it more seeing them play live but this is not an album I’m going to sit down and listen to after this. And yet I did not dislike it at all. I was glad I listened to it and I did listen more than once. I almost feel like I need 2 scores. One score for the “would I recommend this to someone else, would I listen to it again?” and the “from an artistic perspective”. But to split the difference I am going with: 6.0/10 |
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Dušan Jevtovič: Am I Walking Wrong? (2013) Guitar-led jazz fusion is interesting stuff: my own initial experiences probably started with Allan Holdsworth and his experimentation on the synth-axe back in the early 80's with Metal Fatigue and moving forward from that. That being said, once you've spent some time with guys like Toshiki Kadomatsu or Pat Metheny, even modern, edgier guitar-led instrumentality sounds near-pedestrian. Still, I did like this. In the case of Dušan, I found his emphasis on distortion almost refreshing in a sense. He's cut from the cloth of guys like Robin Trower or Buckethead, but his playing is less predictable than the former's and yet more acidic than the latter. And even when he goes into semi-acoustic mode on cuts like "If You See Me Again', his abrasive noodlage is almost comforting in its modality. You get the impression he's probably nursed himself on a lot of Bartok or bands like Univers Zero as a toddler, but perhaps that's just me reading too much into things. All n' all, color me impressed. There's not enough "oomph" in either his technique, production or the overall atmosphere for Am I Walking Wrong? to nudge out any of my existing go-to albums for guitar led jazz fusion/instrumental stuff, but I'm happy that he exists and follows his muse. I'd be interested to hear more from him. 6.5/10 |
[QUOTE=rostasi;1464713]Thanks Moss. Are you having inner turmoil about this? :D
I wanted to mention this album that I picked up and was just released on Tuesday. • Light My Fire - A Classic Rock Salute To The Doors http://i.imgur.com/jNCRyOv.jpg 1. L.A. Woman - Jimi Jamison (Survivor), Ted Turner (Wishbone Ash) & Patrick Moraz (Moody Blues) 2. Love Me Two Times - Lou Gramm (Foreigner), Thijs van Leer (Focus) & Larry Coryell Very impressive. So this is a new album just released? |
^ Yep. You can thank Billy Sherwood (formally of Yes) for putting that album together too. :thumb:
So Carpe is up next. What'cha got for us amigo? |
I'm going to have to skip the last albums as I've been so busy but will do Carpe's albums.
btw didn't know there was a new tribute Doors album and found Riders on the Storm on YT. Love Joe Lynn Turner as a vocalist but wasn't keen on his version of the song though. |
Sorry for my absence, things have been busy lately! Getting ready for comprehensive exams. I want to check out some of these albums though.
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Oops! Sorry everyone, I've been a very lazy forumer lately and was workin 12 hour days for awhile there. Tonight I will listen and review your choices then summon the prog djinn and pass on what they deem worthy of further analysis.
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Currently on vacation for a few weeks and doing a bunch of driving so also struggling to get anything reviewed. Will hit when I can. Looking forward to the Carpe picks!
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[QUOTE=Anteater;1465593]^ Yep. You can thank Billy Sherwood (formally of Yes) for putting that album together too. :thumb:
:yeah: I thank him profusely. I like the version of Riders on the Storm (particularly the vocals), but the instrumental bits are a bit limp. |
I'm listening to 'Am I Walking Wrong?' at this very moment, review to follow shortly!
But to get down to it. For your reviewing pleasure.... I know possibly some of you have listened to one or both, but I'm hoping not so it can be a new treat! Two prog rock/metal 'operas' by two material factory artists with a huge discography. I present.... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...cientcover.jpg Devin Townsend- Ziltoid the Omniscient http://www.guitarmessenger.com/wp-co...n-01011001.jpg Ayreon- 01011001 (PART ONE) They definitely have a different vibe, but the same essential metaphorical message, and one that I personally hold dear to my heart. Both have bits of the more metal side, and the more rock side of prog, so either should be a good choice for anyone here. Hope you enjoy! Just be sure if you go with the Ayreon one that you specifically do part one only, otherwise it's twice as long as Townsend's album. |
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Dušan Jevtovič: Am I Walking Wrong? (2013) 1. You Can't Sing, You Can't Dance- Right up my alley! I gotta admit, I've heard this basic song structure like a million times through my vast stoner fandom but it never ****in gets old, and there were some excellent nuances here. This first track made it clear to me I made the right choice for which album to review. 10/10 2. Am I Walking Wrong?- Sort of New Yorkish with a southern vibe, if that makes any sense. Made me think of old school gangsters on the edge of town where industry meets desert. The last minute or so had some drum variations that brought it to an awesome close. 10/10 3. Drummer's Dance- Cracked a bit of a smile when I saw the title considering the outro of the last song. This started off just trudgy as ****, but not repetetive, it was in a good way. The title fits it perfectly. Then you get less of the rock and more of a slight jazzy vibe towards the middle, with them drums still dancing the night away, and it ends in a related flourish. 10/10 4. One on One- This was good and all, I totally didn't mind listening to it and would probably be like 'hey who is this band?' if someone was playing it, but not as good as the rest of the songs so far. Got kinda boring for me. 6/10 5. In the Last Moment II- Excellent opening! Kinda foreboding and creepy. The whole song is like that, really atmospheric and jilted. Enjoyable listen. 8/10 6. Embracing Simplicity- Guitar nerds... such a guitar nerd song. Again, title fit the track perfectly. Awesome ****in track, to put it simply. Just expect a showcase of strings, moreso than other songs. 10/10 7. Third Life- I was a sucker for the intro at first... but then I got really sick of it. Do somethin, fool! Finally, fool did something, and it was screechy and weird and oddly kinda enjoyable. 7/10 8. Tra-Ta-Ta-Ta-Ta- I kinda failed to understand the point of this short transition song, wasn't particularly interesting. Meh. 3/10 9. Bluesracho- Holy hell of sexy blues right off the bat! I'm just a total sucker for this kind of thing. Total sucker, never ceases to entertain me. And this was a very bouncy feel good sort of blues with a drumtastic outro. 9/10 10. If You See Me Again- Pretty as **** acoustic atmopheric that has a somber, good memories gone by beauty to it. Excellent, and I mean ****ing excellent, final track for this album. 10/10 Technical Total: 8.3/10 However..... I felt like the flow of this album was very well balanced, and there was a decent amount of effort put forth to keep it together. Slight things that were pleasantly discreet, and a broader lack of cacophony. This easily bumps the album, for me, to a 8.8/10 I checked out the other reviews on this, and I gotta disagree with you guys! I really enjoyed this one, enough that I will recommend it to others highly. Different strokes I guess. |
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Nobody likes a shitty cup of coffee...but if Starbucks gave you a dud, would you destroy the whole planet in retaliation? That's the moral dilemma given to us by monsieur Townsend in this epic, epic album about one alien and his quest to drink the best cup of coffee in the universe. And as far as solo albums go, its definitely one of the best you'll ever hear from anyone. Vocals, instrumentation, production...everything's done by Devy himself without much help. I'd probably go crazy after four months in a studio trying to painstakingly piece together something even half as cohesive & interesting as Ziltoid The Omniscient, but maybe that's just me. Sonically, this sucker lies somewhere between Strapping Young Lad and the more strident, symphonic direction that Devin tends to take with his solo material or poppier Project excursions like Addicted! and Epicloud. Fun ride all the way through too: 'By Your Command' takes us through the opening act of the narrative like some sort of marching anthem as the Drumkit From Hell blasts from behind before segueing into some gorgeous harmonies by the mid-point, and that's just the start! Other highlights include the endemically wonderful 'Hyperdrive' with its monster hook, the Floydian 'Color Your World' and the fist-pumping 'Planet Smasher', but even the interludes do their part just fine. There's a lot of narration interspersed throughout the album that makes this sound more like a "musical" than a concept record, but they're integrated so well that as far as rock operas go, you can't help but feel invested in Townsend's B-Movie invasion musical scenery as it flows by. That's normally very difficult to map out on paper, and even harder to implement as a singular vision of some kind...but Devin pulls it off like it's the most natural thing in the world. I'll finish this little review by saying that honest-to-God GREAT concept records are really hard to come by, prog or metal or otherwise. There's a reason people still talk about Operation: Mindcrime nearly three decades later while others have fallen to the wayside. While every once in awhile a concept album gets absorbed into pop culture due to accompanying visual material rather than the strength of its overall musical vision (like Pink Floyd's The Wall), Ziltoid is undoubtedly a masterpiece of focused, unbridled genius in melodic metal that would succeed even without a movie adaptation. It even comes with a sense of humor! 10/10 |
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Don’t have too much to say about this one but thought I would put a few thoughts out there: On the plus side: Telecaster - It appears his main guitar is a Telecaster so I have to give it up for him. It’s what I play the most and he gets some great tones out of it although I’m not a fan of some of the tones he uses. Lessons - According to his website he will provide private lessons via Skype. I’m half tempted to find out what that would cost but I know it’s going to be more than I’m willing to pay. Chops - Clearly he has chops and knows his music theory. As far as songs: You can’t sing, you can’t dance - He is able to play those great whole tone or atonal or whatever the hell phrases that are hard to do correctly. Liked this one. Am I walking wrong - Play a repeating bass line and improve over it with a fat distorted tone. Meh. Nothing Yo La Tengo has not done for years and better. Drummers dance - The style he uses in this one is very much like John Scofield. Those short, stabbing kind of phrases. I love John Scofield. Like this one too. One on One - String bending frenzy, I like it alright. In the last moment II - Showing his volume swell techniques. This one leaned more towards rock than the fusion stuff up to this point. Found this one pretty boring. Embracing Simplicity - This one bored me as well. Third Life - Painfully long and boring Tra ta ta ta ta - Glad things are picking back up here but still not a great track. Bluesracho - Some nice inventive phrases here but the background music was so boring as a platform to solo over and his guitar tone kind of sucked on this one. Sounds like a filler track. If you see me again - Boring layering of guitar parts This is not something I can see myself revisiting. I did like the first half of the album but then it really started to drag through the second half. Certainly a good guitar player and I would take lessons from him in a second but I just don’t see that he is bringing anything new to the table musically. Jeff Beck, Eric Johnson, Steve Morse, John Scofield are way more exciting to me. This sounds like a decent mix tape from a good guitar play but there are thousands of those out there so not sure why this would stand apart. 6/10 Looking forward to Ziltoid! |
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I'd only ever heard a few things by Devin Townsend in the past and had usually been a bit negative towards those listens, largely because I couldn't get into his production style. I chose the Devin Townsend album quite simply because I liked the cover and found out it was a concept album (even though most concepts don't usually cut it for me) I found the concept here interesting, the vocals strong, the guitars loud, with some surprising melodies and yes I found the production here really great as well. After just a few songs I knew I was going to like the material on offer here a lot as well. The album is a great and heavy rock opera and that's just how it should be from a metal artist and I once read not too long ago that Devin Townsend is seen as a metal version of Frank Zappa and I can only think that comes from the comedy element in his music (we're talking sophisticated comedy here of course) Ziltoid is probably one of the best unheard of albums by me that I've heard in a while and it certainly has me now looking to explore the rest of Devin Townsend's material in a lot more detail. 4.5/5 |
Good reviews guys, but I think it's about time to move on to the next person unless we got a few others wanting to take a crack at Ziltoid. ;)
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I just passed my comprehensive exams yesterday! I am now feeling a bit more free, but I have a gig today and need to make up time in the recording studio.
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Artist: Xaal Album: En Chemin Style: French Progressive Instrumental link: Xaal - En Chemin MP3 downloads | www.MyFreeMp3.cc there's some associated web ad assault and possible fishing scams associated with this site, but they have the full album there and all the songs I've tried play just fine; ignore/block popups. |
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Woo-hoo! I'm back baby!
Great to see you guys have continued on without me --- no, really: I'm not bitter at all. I only started the damn thing --- ungrateful bastards, think they can exist without me --- be nowhere if it wasn't for me --- mutter mutter --- see about that .... Seriously though, well done, and Anteater seems to be proving an able commander in my presence, so much so that I think it's only fair we leave him in charge. No point in my trying to reassert my authority (Hey Ant! You want an arm-wrestling contest? Checkers? Tic-tac-toe? Doom II? :D) However, the changing format is confusing me. The list I chose, which Rostasti was challenging I believe, was, er, suggested by him, and though eclectic I thought it worked quite well. Ant's list is fine of course, but now we're back to 200 albums as opposed to 1000. Hmm. But now the four-albums-per-member thing is really confusing me. I tried this a while back and it seemed to fall flat on its face, with everyone discussing their own album and no real interaction. Yet here you seem to be all discussing the one album, though there's still an element of choice per member ... No, I'm at sea. Can someone explain to me what you're doing, how this works? Also, I see nobody has been keeping the league table going. Do you want that reinstated or left alone? If the former, I can take care of that since I won't be running the club now. Just let me know. Oh and count me in for the next album of course. Which is...? Thanks guys and it's good to be back. TH |
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