Bands you can't get into

**Janszoon** · 05-22-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by erikxvx

I never got too into Fugazi, despite all of their hype amongst the indie and punk scene.

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

Any Jack White side/solo project beside White Stripes. I don't really understand to be honest, because I know others can dig some of his other work, I just can't for some reason.

Yeah, Jack White's and Ian McKaye's take on prog isn't very proggy.

Electrophonic Tonic · 05-23-2012, 12:13 AM

I've always tried to follow my own motto, "To like the prog: you must learn to deal with the prog". Basically, I know it takes time to really enjoy a prog band. Case in point: HATED King Crimson the first time I heard them. A few accidental listenings later and finally having the stones to listen to all of 'In the Court', they were my favorite band within a year.

When it comes to Rush and ELP, I've given them plenty of time to grow on me, and I can't enjoy them beyond their bigger songs. With ELP, I think it's because there are so many times good ELP songs turn into Keith Emerson piano recitals and that really ruins it for me. I'm sure part of that has to do with me absolutely despising Karn Evil 9...

With Rush, it's the lyrics. Usually for me, the lyrics are secondary to the music. But so often I hear Rush's lyrics and they sound so awkward it really kills the feel of the whole song. Such as Red Barchetta, Limelight and the abomination that it the Trees.

**Goofle** · 05-23-2012, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Yeah, Jack White's and Ian McKaye's take on prog isn't very proggy.

Heh. I didn't realise this was in the prog section. I really should stop using tapatalk on here.

Trollheart · 05-23-2012, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Dream Theater. My best mate bangs on about them and some of his descriptions are spot on and I should like some of it considering my tastes but I just can't get into them at all, the same for him regarding The Mars Volta though. I like them, he hates them!

I'm the same with DT. To me, it just seems there's too much "showoffery", to invent a word, where everyone goes "Look at me! Look how long/complicated a keyboard solo I can do" or "Look how good I am on guitar!" without, it seems, taking enough care of and interest in the songs. More a showcase for how talented each is/think they are than a band trying to make proper music.

That's just me. And Jack. And probably thousands others....

Vertigo · 05-23-2012, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

Any Jack White side/solo project beside White Stripes. I don't really understand to be honest, because I know others can dig some of his other work, I just can't for some reason.

Yep, totally agree. I always found his work with The Raconteurs and Dead Weather to be very dull and I've no real interest in his solo album.

Shame really, because Jack was amazing in The White Stripes

Unknown Soldier · 05-23-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Dream Theater. My best mate bangs on about them and some of his descriptions are spot on and I should like some of it considering my tastes but I just can't get into them at all, the same for him regarding The Mars Volta though. I like them, he hates them!

Dream Theater mostly appeal to people who were AOR and pomp rock fans of the 1970s and 1980s. They then added metal to the mix and hit the jackpot.

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Originally Posted by Electrophonic Tonic

I've always tried to follow my own motto, "To like the prog: you must learn to deal with the prog". Basically, I know it takes time to really enjoy a prog band. Case in point: HATED King Crimson the first time I heard them. A few accidental listenings later and finally having the stones to listen to all of 'In the Court', they were my favorite band within a year.

When it comes to Rush and ELP, I've given them plenty of time to grow on me, and I can't enjoy them beyond their bigger songs. With ELP, I think it's because there are so many times good ELP songs turn into Keith Emerson piano recitals and that really ruins it for me. I'm sure part of that has to do with me absolutely despising Karn Evil 9...

With Rush, it's the lyrics. Usually for me, the lyrics are secondary to the music. But so often I hear Rush's lyrics and they sound so awkward it really kills the feel of the whole song. Such as Red Barchetta, Limelight and the abomination that it the Trees.

ELP were probably the most pretentious of all prog bands, they knew how good they were as musicians and made no secret about how good they were either. They're not a group I love but they do have some great albums and the tracks "Tarkus" and "Karn Evil 9" are two of their best.

Rush's lyrics can be pretty bad at times I agree,

Trollheart · 05-23-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Dream Theater mostly appeal to people who were AOR and pomp rock fans of the 1970s and 1980s. They then added metal to the mix and hit the jackpot.

I reckon this is one band I'll never get into. Their songs are just almost like too much work; can't enjoy them. Though that said, "Hollow years" off "Falling into infinity" is a great song. See? When they do it nice and simple...

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ELP were probably the most pretentious of all prog bands, they knew how good they were as musicians and made no secret about how good they were either. They're not a group I love but they do have some great albums and the tracks "Tarkus" and "Karn Evil 9" are two of their best.

I despise Tarkus, and consider ELP almost the forerunners to Dream Theater. Overly pretentious, preachy in a musical sense and just totally dead boring. IMO of course.

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Rush's lyrics can be pretty bad at times I agree,

But then there's 2112. And "The necromancer". And what's wrong with "The trees" anyway? I love that track. That said, I'm not the biggest Rush fan, but I can certainly enjoy their music. Geddy's screeching can get on the nerves a little, all right.

Unknown Soldier · 05-23-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I reckon this is one band I'll never get into. Their songs are just almost like too much work; can't enjoy them. Though that said, "Hollow years" off "Falling into infinity" is a great song. See? When they do it nice and simple...

I despise Tarkus, and consider ELP almost the forerunners to Dream Theater. Overly pretentious, preachy in a musical sense and just totally dead boring. IMO of course.

I'm surprised you don't like Images and Words and Awake, two DT albums I would've said would be right up your street.

AS I said, I never ever liked ELP but I do appreciate their discography and it is one of the essential prog bands to listen to.

cledussnow · 05-23-2012, 03:30 PM

I like ELP far more than Dream Theater's original stuff.

Take A Pebble; Still, You Turn me On; From the Beginning; I love them all. I am firmly in the LOVE Tarkus camp. But yeah, Emerson was the weakest link for sure.

I also LOVE Rush. Especially the early stuff through Signals. I always thought The Trees was sort of clever. Basically shines the light on the fact that many human conflicts are over stupid stuff we can't control. At least that's what I got out of it. I will concede the Geddy voice CAN grate on the nerves sometimes. But overall a fantastic band.

My contribution to the actual question would be:

Gentle Giant, although I don't DIS like them, they just seemed kind of blah to me. I did recently see an awesome video of a live performance of them, and it makes me think I need to revisit the band now.

Another might be Hawkwind? I like a few songs but most of the stuff I've heard didn't do much for me. I still respect the trail they were blazing, but I could take em or leave em.

14232949 · 05-23-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

Any Jack White side/solo project beside White Stripes. I don't really understand to be honest, because I know others can dig some of his other work, I just can't for some reason.

Yeah, people have been licking on his balls so much you'd think Blunderbuss was the second coming of Jesus Christ.
I don't get the hype, **** I don't even get the hype for the White Stripes, they're pretty average.

05-23-2012, 12:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
Electrophonic Tonic Your Ad Here Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: The Twilight Zone Posts: 876	I've always tried to follow my own motto, "To like the prog: you must learn to deal with the prog". Basically, I know it takes time to really enjoy a prog band. Case in point: HATED King Crimson the first time I heard them. A few accidental listenings later and finally having the stones to listen to all of 'In the Court', they were my favorite band within a year. When it comes to Rush and ELP, I've given them plenty of time to grow on me, and I can't enjoy them beyond their bigger songs. With ELP, I think it's because there are so many times good ELP songs turn into Keith Emerson piano recitals and that really ruins it for me. I'm sure part of that has to do with me absolutely despising Karn Evil 9... With Rush, it's the lyrics. Usually for me, the lyrics are secondary to the music. But so often I hear Rush's lyrics and they sound so awkward it really kills the feel of the whole song. Such as Red Barchetta, Limelight and the abomination that it the Trees.

05-23-2012, 03:30 PM	#19 (permalink)
cledussnow Music Addict Join Date: May 2012 Location: North Alabama via New Orleans Posts: 149	I like ELP far more than Dream Theater's original stuff. Take A Pebble; Still, You Turn me On; From the Beginning; I love them all. I am firmly in the LOVE Tarkus camp. But yeah, Emerson was the weakest link for sure. I also LOVE Rush. Especially the early stuff through Signals. I always thought The Trees was sort of clever. Basically shines the light on the fact that many human conflicts are over stupid stuff we can't control. At least that's what I got out of it. I will concede the Geddy voice CAN grate on the nerves sometimes. But overall a fantastic band. My contribution to the actual question would be: Gentle Giant, although I don't DIS like them, they just seemed kind of blah to me. I did recently see an awesome video of a live performance of them, and it makes me think I need to revisit the band now. Another might be Hawkwind? I like a few songs but most of the stuff I've heard didn't do much for me. I still respect the trail they were blazing, but I could take em or leave em.