THE best of the Star Trek movies, bar none. With "First Contact" a close second. The rest are all pretty meh.

So are we ready for a new battle? These are all pretty tame so far: 6/4, 4/3 --- WE PAID FOR BLOOOOOOD!!! :D

I'd say that if people are just responding to Star Trek references now, a new battle might be a good idea.

OK well in that case, Electrophonic Tonic has suggested this:

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Supertramp --- Crime of the century

vs

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The Moody Blues --- In search of the lost chord

(Which oddly enough was the album from which today's "Random Track of the Day" came for my journal...)

Anyway, good one, and one I can finally weigh in on. Without any reservations or hesitations, it's several million votes for Supertramp!

Okay then, just the one.

Supertramp --- Crime of the century ---1 vote
The Moody Blues --- In search of the lost chord --- 0 votes

I just listened to the Supertramp last night for the umpteenth time, the Moody Blues I know really well as well. A tough choice will think about it and place my vote a bit later.

After further thought, the Moody Blues album is probably their best with its unique feel and instrumentation, it really continues from their previous album and breakthrough piece Days of Future Passed. These releases by the Moody's were essential albums in the building of prog. Supertramps third effort came at a time when prog was in full flow and had already had some landmark albums, it was their third album and the first where the Hodgson and Davies partnership fully flourished, its an easy listening prog album that is highlighted by some stunning musical pieces mostly on "School" and the title track. Its stands as one of the great prog albums of the 1970s.

Supertramp -2
Moody Blues -0

i don't have either

wait a while for my vote

You don't know these albums???

i have other Moody Blues, not this one

i don't have a single Supertramp, and i only know their "girlfriend, she's the only one I got" and "give your love to me" songs

I like Crime of the Century, but not as much as I adore In Search of the Lost Chord. It's such a beautiful, laid-back, classic 60s album ..

So my vote goes to The Moody Blues :)

Supertramp -2
Moody Blues -1

I haven't listened to Crime of the Century in several years. It was among some stolen CDs and one of the few I haven't replaced.

I really like In Search of the Lost Chord, but I will be fair and try to get a copy of Crime before casting my vote.

so ok

Supertramp - well, the instrumentation is good and everything falls into place, but is it long and drawn-out or what? only "Bloody Well Right" perks my ears, as it sounds like it comes from Pink Floyd's Animals. The rest of the album was extremely tedious and i kept wondering when it'd end

Moody Blues - this is more a "Baroque Pop" album than a proper "Prog" album. As it stands, it's pleasant and rather catchy and reminds me of the Zombies' Odessey and Oracle. I quite like this one.

so:-

Supertramp - 2
Moody Blues - 2

Eaassyyy... my Supertramp soft spot is showing

Crime - 3
Chord - 2

Wow! I'm amazed you think "Crime of the century" is boring! You don't find anything stunning in tracks like "Asylum", "School" or even the title track? Not even the quietly brilliant "If everyone was listening"? This is one of their classic albums, and if you didn't like it Howard then I think you may not be a Supertramp fan. Paradoxically, the weakest track for me on that album IS "Bloody well right" (great piano intro though); I much prefer Hodgson's voice.

Oh well, your opinion is yours, but I totally disagree. I find the Moodys in general flat and boring, and any of their albums I've listened to usually fail to impress me.

To really appreciate the Supertramp debut, its an album that needs to be played several times to really get the songs, its not an album that's going to grab somebody on first listen. Agree with "Bloody Well Right" as well possibly the weakest on there, whilst the title track has to be amongst one of the greatest songs ever written. Howie il Duckie is a great guy but sadly he is an unbeliever at times;)

The same can be said for Trollheart :p:

no i am not a Supertramp fan

i only really like that "take a look at my gf, she's the only one I got" song

mainly cos it was sampled by Gym Class Heroes

After listening and refamiliarizing myself with Crime of the Century, I found it to be a great album and it makes this the toughest choice yet.

IMO, it is two totally different sounds. The Supertramp disc is far more polished and the sound quality is head and shoulders better than ISOTLC. Crime really has a lot going on. All of the songs are beautifully written, many changes throughout, many songs have a gradual buildup (which is something I like). I agree with Howard's assessment a bit though, many of the songs seem to be a bit on the long side.

I adore In Search of the Lost Chord. The "concept album" really shines & the journey it takes you on is great. The feel of this album is super.

It is really a tossup, and I could choose either depending on the mood. However when I played both albums back to back on repeat, I found myself enjoying In Search of the Lost Chord a bit more. So for today I will cast my vote for The Moody Blues.

Crime of the Century - 3
In Search of the Lost Chord - 3

The Moody Blues is a pretty fantastic band, and In Search of the Lost Chord is of no exception in terms of brilliant pacing throughout a concept. But I like the groove and bumpers at the end of the album especially (not to denote from the rest of the album, but the first and final track are just outright fantastic). One vote for Crime of the Century.

Crime of the Century - 4
In Search of the Lost Chord - 3

I choose to believe what I was programmed to believe! :)

God-damn it Howard! It's called "Breakfast in America"! From, you know, the album of the same name? One of their most recogised songs? :rolleyes: :banghead: ;)

Small point US: "Crime of the century" is not their debut.
But of course, you knew that.
Just for anyone else who thinks it was: they had two albums prior to this, but it was their first commercially successful album.

(Pedestrian has nothing on me when it comes to pedants!) :D

I know its not, I've made the same mistake like a thousand times, I keep on calling it their debut even when I know its not.......I can't help myself.

no i didn't know that

though i did know it's from that album

Any more votes? The current status is

Supertramp --- Crime of the century --- 4 votes
Moody Blues --- In search of the lost chord --- 3 votes

Are we ready to call it, and move on to the next, or are there any further votes to be cast? It's not what you'd call a landslide, but then, none of the previous wars have been either...

Call it, we don't want the Moody's winning.

OK, no more suggestions from anyone so let me try one. NO, it's NOT a Marillion album! :) Although.... No, no!

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It Bites --- Once around the world

vs

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Touchstone --- The city sleeps

If anyone needs these albums let me know.
Get yer votes in guys!

I had heard neither album, so it took awhile for me to track them down and give a fair assesment.


Both are decent and after hearing the Once Around the World, I liked the harder sound of Touchstone a bit more.

However, when looking at the overall album, I think It Bites had fewer weak spots, and therefore:

It Bites gets my vote.

Forgot about this, I'll give them both a listen soon and will place my vote accordingly.

Guys, is this still happening or has everyone abandoned it?

to tell you the truth, i'm not at all interested in either albums

based on what I've heard from them

I'm still digesting. I have them, though. Was hoping others would begin discussing it by now. At least Cleduss finished listening and gave his input.

I have never heard of that touchstone band, but It Bites is a very fine AOR/neo-prog band. Their 'once around the world' album is a 5-star record. The album that followed, 'eat me in St-Louis' was more hard-rock oriented but still very good. It is worth noticing that Francis Dunnery, it Bites' frontman, has vocals similar to Peter Gabriel, and guitar play influenced by Alland Holdsworth.

He did? Where? :confused:

Edit: oh yeah, sorry, I see it now... :o:

Been away from MB a lot these days but I have both albums ready on Spotify although It Bites fill me with dread. Calling All The Heroes is a terrible song and put me off them big time but I will listen to both albums over the weekend and report back.

Should be listening to both albums later this evening.

So are you abstaining from the vote, or do you hate one less than the other? I'm surprised you don't find anything good in either really, but then, to each his own: we've had our Supertramp argument after all...

Still, I'd like to know what your final decision is...

Thx

erm, not really interested in hearing either

maybe i'll just have a cursory listen on youtube but that'd be quite unfair to both

The It Bites album is poor, if this passes as prog these days......well need I say more. They sound more like a mixture of Level 42 and a whole load of other terrible pop bands that infested the UK charts in the 1980s, hopefully Touchstone will be better.

It Bites is an 80s band, are they not?

Yes but I wasn't expecting them to sound like a pop band.