King Crimson vs Yes

Unknown Soldier · 04-24-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Yes is Chris Squier's band - it can only be called a Yes album if he appears on it. It's a revolving door with band members, Chris thought it kept the band always sounding fresh. But from pov where I have a definite favourite line-up it limits the albums by that line-up. I'm more of Steve Howe & Bill Bruford fan.

I think you've crossed your wires here, it should be as follows. King Crimson is very much Robert Fripp's band in the same way as Jethro Tull is Ian Anderson's band. These bands over the years they have used a multitude of artists and these artists have usually been around for either just one album or for several.

Yes on the other hand were hardly a revolving door. The core band was always Jon Anderson, Steve Howe and Chris Squire and when Rick Wakeman and Bill Bruford joined, it was seen as the band that Yes had always strived to reach. Yes only started to undergo multiple line-up changes by the time they got into the 1980s, but they never had a revolving door mentality like KC did.

VanDerGraaf · 04-26-2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

I think you've crossed your wires here, it should be as follows. King Crimson is very much Robert Fripp's band in the same way as Jethro Tull is Ian Anderson's band. These bands over the years they have used a multitude of artists and these artists have usually been around for either just one album or for several.

Yes on the other hand were hardly a revolving door. The core band was always Jon Anderson, Steve Howe and Chris Squire and when Rick Wakeman and Bill Bruford joined, it was seen as the band that Yes had always strived to reach. Yes only started to undergo multiple line-up changes by the time they got into the 1980s, but they never had a revolving door mentality like KC did.

they only did 2 albums with that lineup

Unknown Soldier · 04-27-2012, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by VanDerGraaf

they only did 2 albums with that lineup

That might be so, but the point is that the band were striving for perfection and that line-up was seen as being that perfection. Maybe not together, but both Bruford and Wakeman were on a lot of Yes albums in their golden period.

silverwick · 05-02-2012, 02:59 AM

For Crimson to win they would have to have the ref in their pocket, although Anderson and Wakeman cannot run like they used, to are both sides allowed substitutions?

Big Ears · 05-02-2012, 03:28 AM

I like them both, but not unreservedly. Yes have made a lot of great albums, like Close to the Edge and Fragile, but Yes Tor-mato and Open Your Eyes (apart from the title track) are stinkers. In the Court of the Crimson King is fantastic, especially 21st Century Schizoid Man, but from Discipline onwards they were a different band and sounded like Talking Heads. I saw them live, around the time Discipline was released, and the anticipation was massive. Nevertheless, they refused to play Schizoid Man, despite audience requests throughout the show. Robert Fripp sat on a barstool throughout, which he nearly fell off of at one stage, and made weird salutes to the crowd. Disappointing doesn't begin to describe that show. I suppose without Greg Lake and Ian McDonald, they couldn't be King Crimson.

TheNiceGuy · 05-02-2012, 04:05 AM

I've only heard a few albums from both bands...but I'm leaning towards Yes mostly because of the strengths of Close to the Edge and Fragile.

Flyingpig437 · 05-02-2012, 05:11 AM

I never seem to hear many people raving on bout KC's post debut album apart from Red whereas Yes seem to have knocked out a few classics and near classics after a patchy start so I think history will rembwr Yes better.

Howard the Duck · 05-02-2012, 08:08 AM

i like both about equally

but i think KC has the slight edge because they have more good than bad albums

whereas for Yes, with the onset of the 80s, their albums were pretty uneven, to say the least

Unknown Soldier · 05-02-2012, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck

i like both about equally

but i think KC has the slight edge because they have more good than bad albums

whereas for Yes, with the onset of the 80s, their albums were pretty uneven, to say the least

Yes should've called it a day after Big Generator.

Howard the Duck · 05-02-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Yes should've called it a day after Big Generator.

i can pretty much tolerate Talk, but only as an AOR album, and not a Yes album

Fly From Here is also pretty nice, but hardly classic Yes material

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silverwick Groupie Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: England Posts: 36	For Crimson to win they would have to have the ref in their pocket, although Anderson and Wakeman cannot run like they used, to are both sides allowed substitutions?

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Big Ears Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 434	I like them both, but not unreservedly. Yes have made a lot of great albums, like Close to the Edge and Fragile, but Yes Tor-mato and Open Your Eyes (apart from the title track) are stinkers. In the Court of the Crimson King is fantastic, especially 21st Century Schizoid Man, but from Discipline onwards they were a different band and sounded like Talking Heads. I saw them live, around the time Discipline was released, and the anticipation was massive. Nevertheless, they refused to play Schizoid Man, despite audience requests throughout the show. Robert Fripp sat on a barstool throughout, which he nearly fell off of at one stage, and made weird salutes to the crowd. Disappointing doesn't begin to describe that show. I suppose without Greg Lake and Ian McDonald, they couldn't be King Crimson.