Comus - First Utterance (1971)

Guybrush · 02-21-2011, 03:34 AM

This thread is for discussing the Comus album First Utterance from 1971. It was homework in our Prog & Fusion Album Club in February 2011.

Here's a quick description :

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

Comus - First Utterance (1971)

I'm sure most of you have heard this album, but I thought it would be a fun album to talk about. For those who don't know, this album is a folk album that uses worldly sounds incorporated into its music (you can hear bongos, Romani-sounding violin, old blues/slide guitar, folky voice, etc). The strangest and most interesting aspect about this album, though, is its juxtaposition between the sound of the music and the actual topic that the music is about.

So, whatcha think about it?

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 02-21-2011, 08:50 AM

I honestly loved it. Legit folky but with some of the most interesting lengthy instrumental sections I've ever heard. Long song structures, interesting atmosphere, and lyrics. This is an eclectic masterpiece. No way I could vote anything beyond 'brilliant' on this one.

Plus, god dammit, I love fiddle/violin. It honestly pleases me much more to hear than guitar 90% of the time, and these guys blended it in perfectly.

Sneer · 02-21-2011, 08:56 AM

It's brilliant, quite simply. It's an emotionally engaging, nebulous oddity that has the capacity to thrust the listener into pockets of their mentality rarely explored - and that is always a winner in my book. Sorry for the pretentious description, but I feel one is almost necessary to explain why the album works.

Anteater · 02-21-2011, 02:28 PM

A lot of albums attempt to connect listeners to a sense of mayhem and derangement (AKA every classic thrash/death/doom, etc. metal album under the sun). I suppose it's amusing (and telling) that First Utterance, released in 1971 and lying half-rotten in obscurity for the thirty years since then, has yet to be eclipsed in that area by even the sludgiest of the sludge.

And yes, I love metal. But in terms of blending the darkness of primeval myth with organic musical ideas, nothing touches what Comus concocted in seven measly songs during the ruinous, tar-skied winter of 1970.

What else can I say about one of the most emotionally and legitimately evil records ever made? Definitely gets the 'Brilliant' vote from me.

Palatable Vera · 02-21-2011, 03:09 PM

I haven't followed the Prog Album Club at all, but I'll still say something about it if that's alright:

The first time I heard First Utterance, I hated it. I couldn't understand why anybody would want to listen to it, let alone make it. But I put it on again awhile later -- probably because I forgot I listened to it in the first place -- and I loved it. I'm not exactly sure why I changed my mind about it. It's too bad their next album sounded like a bad Aphrodite's Child knock-off.

RVCA · 02-21-2011, 03:53 PM

I voted very good. Once you get past the male singer's voice/style (if that's an issue in the first place), it's very enjoyable.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 02-21-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RVCA

I voted very good. Once you get past the male singer's voice/style (if that's an issue in the first place), it's very enjoyable.

I liked his voice. It was very medieval. Reminds me a ton of early Idiot Flesh, suppose that's where they got it.

TockTockTock · 02-21-2011, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

I liked his voice. It was very medieval. Reminds me a ton of early Idiot Flesh, suppose that's where they got it.

Never made that comparison. But when I think about it, the vocals do share some similarities.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 02-21-2011, 04:36 PM

I think it's Gene Jun who kind of co-lead with Nils Frykdahl, and was essentially replaced by Carla Kihlstead to create Sleepytime Gorilla Museum. His voice is very similar to the guy in Comus. Especially the songs "The Tale", and "Meditation"(an amazing song).

Guybrush · 02-26-2011, 09:18 AM

I rated the album as a very good. I love it's uniqueness and the way the album expresses itself. It feels so insane sometimes. It's like they've taken some of those sinister and uncomfortable aesthetics experimented with by bands like Amon Düül (f.ex on Psychedelic Underground, 1969) or Cro Magnon (On Orgasm, 1968) and done that in a folky way which actually works and makes it an enjoyable experience to listen to.

I don't think it's quite brilliant, but that's not so much because it's not well done but basically because I tend to favour slightly different qualities, feelings and themes in music than what this album conveys, but .. If I ever make a movie in which a group of people with animal masks dance madly around a bonfire at night, I'll definetly put Drip Drip in the soundtrack.

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02-21-2011, 08:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	It's brilliant, quite simply. It's an emotionally engaging, nebulous oddity that has the capacity to thrust the listener into pockets of their mentality rarely explored - and that is always a winner in my book. Sorry for the pretentious description, but I feel one is almost necessary to explain why the album works. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

02-21-2011, 03:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
Palatable Vera Quad? Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 125	I haven't followed the Prog Album Club at all, but I'll still say something about it if that's alright: The first time I heard First Utterance, I hated it. I couldn't understand why anybody would want to listen to it, let alone make it. But I put it on again awhile later -- probably because I forgot I listened to it in the first place -- and I loved it. I'm not exactly sure why I changed my mind about it. It's too bad their next album sounded like a bad Aphrodite's Child knock-off. __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/PalatableVera

02-26-2011, 09:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	I rated the album as a very good. I love it's uniqueness and the way the album expresses itself. It feels so insane sometimes. It's like they've taken some of those sinister and uncomfortable aesthetics experimented with by bands like Amon Düül (f.ex on Psychedelic Underground, 1969) or Cro Magnon (On Orgasm, 1968) and done that in a folky way which actually works and makes it an enjoyable experience to listen to. I don't think it's quite brilliant, but that's not so much because it's not well done but basically because I tend to favour slightly different qualities, feelings and themes in music than what this album conveys, but .. If I ever make a movie in which a group of people with animal masks dance madly around a bonfire at night, I'll definetly put Drip Drip in the soundtrack. __________________ Something Completely Different

02-21-2011, 03:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
RVCA （￣ー￣） Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,270	I voted very good. Once you get past the male singer's voice/style (if that's an issue in the first place), it's very enjoyable.