Which is the Best Pre-1985 Prog Epic?

~~Baggs~~ · 04-13-2011, 08:45 AM

There is no "Best".

Stop thinking like this.

Its embarrassing for all.

Guybrush · 04-13-2011, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baggs

There is no "Best".

Stop thinking like this.

Its embarrassing for all.

It's true that the title of the thread suggests there is a best, but if you look at the question posed in the first post and the poll, the question is actually which is your favourite.

I assume it's not embarassing having a favourite?

~~Baggs~~ · 04-13-2011, 09:57 AM

I realize it can be a totally unfamiliar line of thought which goes against all your most ingrained predilictions and illiberalities, but there can be no such thing as a single, singularity-"favorite".
For a few reasons - one of which is that Time changes all.

I cannot expect music forum people to understand this.

Oh! And please take Rush off that list.

Guybrush · 04-13-2011, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baggs

For a few reasons - one of which is that Time changes all.

So what if favourites change? That doesn't mean that you can't have a favourite prog epic at a point in time.

The goal of this thread is roughly to discuss prog epics. Talking about favourites is one way to enable that. Hence, for all practical purposes, it works just fine, despite your flawed logic that there can't be a favourite.

~~Baggs~~ · 04-13-2011, 10:32 AM

Birthcontrol "Backdoor Possibilities" is a TOP epic concept.

Put that on your list.

Guybrush · 04-13-2011, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baggs

Birthcontrol "Backdoor Possibilities" is a TOP epic concept.

Put that on your list.

Does that album contain a prog epic as in basically a really long prog rock song like any of the songs in the poll above?

~~Baggs~~ · 04-13-2011, 04:22 PM

No, it does not.

I misunderstood the thread.
(My idea of "epic" is the whole shebang -a concept. Not a single track.)

TheNiceGuy · 09-24-2011, 03:34 AM

I'm really regretting saying that Close to the Edge was only reasonably impressive before in another thread. I now realise that it truly deserves it's great reputation. Honourable mentions to Thick as a Brick and Tarkus.

Howard the Duck · 09-24-2011, 11:10 AM

Marillion's Grendel?

4 real

that sounds like a 3rd or 4th rate Gabriel-era Genesis and is pretty boring to boot

i have to admit Misplaced Childhood is very good, though

jastrub · 09-25-2011, 12:19 PM

My 2 favorite prog epics aren't on the list!

Cygnux X-1 Book II by Rush and The Musical Box by Genesis are both remarkable tracks that really shouldn't be overlooked. Both are really lifechanging.

View Poll Results: Which is your favourite 1985-Prog epic? (* = not in compilation)
Camel - Lady Fantasy	2	2.17%
Capability Brown - Circumstances	0	0%
Caravan - Nine Feet Underground	0	0%
Egg - symphony2	0	0%
Eloy - Poseidon's Creation	0	0%
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus	1	1.09%
Focus - Anonymus II	0	0%
Genesis - Supper's Ready	12	13.04%
Harmonium - Histoire Sans Paroles	0	0%
Hatfield and the North - Mumps	1	1.09%
Jan Dukes de Grey - Sun Symphonica	0	0%
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick	7	7.61%
Kansas - Incomudro - Hymn to the Atman	0	0%
King Crimson - Starless	5	5.43%
Lucifer's Friend - Sorrow	0	0%
Magma - Na Ektila	0	0%
Marillion - Grendel	1	1.09%
Mirthrandir - For Four	0	0%
Nektar - A Tab in the Ocean	0	0%
Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Downwind	0	0%
Renaissance - Song Of Scheherazade	1	1.09%
Rush - 2112	19	20.65%
Samurai - King Riff and Snow Flakes	0	0%
Soft Machine - Out-Bloody-Rageous	1	1.09%
The Nice - Ars Longa Vita Brevis	0	0%
Van Der Graaf Generator - A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers	2	2.17%
Yes - Close To The Edge	20	21.74%
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells *	5	5.43%
Pink Floyd - Echoes *	11	11.96%
King Crimson - Lizard *	2	2.17%
Yes - Gates of Delirium *	2	2.17%
Voters: 92. You may not vote on this poll

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04-13-2011, 08:45 AM	#51 (permalink)
~~Baggs~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Leutonia Proper Posts: 128	There is no "Best". Stop thinking like this. Its embarrassing for all.

04-13-2011, 09:57 AM	#53 (permalink)
~~Baggs~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Leutonia Proper Posts: 128	I realize it can be a totally unfamiliar line of thought which goes against all your most ingrained predilictions and illiberalities, but there can be no such thing as a single, singularity-"favorite". For a few reasons - one of which is that Time changes all. I cannot expect music forum people to understand this. Oh! And please take Rush off that list.

04-13-2011, 10:32 AM	#55 (permalink)
~~Baggs~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Leutonia Proper Posts: 128	Birthcontrol "Backdoor Possibilities" is a TOP epic concept. Put that on your list.

04-13-2011, 04:22 PM	#57 (permalink)
~~Baggs~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Leutonia Proper Posts: 128	No, it does not. I misunderstood the thread. (My idea of "epic" is the whole shebang -a concept. Not a single track.)