Sneer

now i know a lot of people are not keen on this particular sub-genre. but i want to know your views on it and any bands you particularly like/dislike that can be labelled as prog?!?! personally im a fan of it.

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Urban Hat€monger ?

Some of the earlier stuff was ok, I don`t mind some early King Cimson or Van Der Graaf Generator but when bands like Genesis, Emerson Lake & Palmer & Yes came along it just turned into pretentious self indulgent twaddle.

I`d rather burn in hell than listen to a Rick Wakeman solo album

TheBig3

Agreed but Tool I think has done a really great job with making it a serious art form and not a lite rock scale-fest. Prog also is a loose term (as is all musical boundries) and so its hard to know what you'd consider prog, would Frank Zappa be prog, I'd say so on some songs. Is rush? I find them appealing.

21st Century Schizoid man it think is one of the best songs I've ever heard, and King Crimsons Schizm is really adept as well.

boo boo

I disagree there, Yes and Genesis were great, i really dont get why people bash prog so much, because its pretentious?, they say that like its such a bad thing, rock n roll has been pretentious from the very start, hell The Beatles, David Bowie, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix and The Velvet Underground were all pretentious...Prog was just another way for rock to be pretentious, it was basicly rock that put more emphasis on making music as an artform rather than a sorce of entertainment, pretty much in the tradition of classical music, i dont see why this is a bad thing, the reasons people give for attacking prog seem silly to me, the music is too long, its too weird, the lyrics are too obscure, the music is too technical and they don't write with passion(whatever the hell that means), so what does that make classical music and jazz?, are those genres just pretentious crap as well?, some people even say its unimaginative and that is just flatout wrong, prog is one of the most imaginitive forms of rock music, to me the only valid explanation for people to hate prog so much is because they either lack the capability to understand it or they are just too close minded to appreciate other forms of music that they are not used to, who wrote the book on music and said that songs always have to be less than 2 minutes long, with miminal instrumental talent, lyrics that take about 10 seconds to write and the same generic pop sound as other songs?, it makes no sense to me, i never understood why the punk movement was so hateful to almost every other style of music that was different from their own, its like they had short attention spans or they were bitter for being so incapable and talentless on their instruments...Oh look at me, i sound like a bitter old man longing for the good old days, i still love punk, and im not generalizing punk music, im just refering to how punk music purists generalize prog, i just wont understand it, ever...To me prog is one of the most diverse and original rock subgenres, if you don't like prog its ok, but to bash a whole genre because you dont like it, that i dont understand, i really hate it when people discriminate against bands because of their genre or their label, thats what people do with punk bands, they get bashed quite a lot from metal fans and prog fans alike, yet punk fans tend to do the same when it comes to prog bands, why can't more people appreciate every genre for what its worth?, i like prog and punk, why does that have to be so rare?

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Urban Hat€monger ?

I`ve never really liked Tool to be honest.

It`s almost like they`re trying too hard to be angry & serious.

Does absolutly nothing for me

TheBig3

Im not arguing, but what makes you think they are trying to hard?

Urban Hat€monger ?

You ever seen them smile?

hookers with machineguns

After that yawn factory known as APC's emotive, I think Maynard needs to write an apology letter to the fan in reference in the song "hooker with a penis." Im getting a sense of where theyre headed, and if it werent for Danny Carey and Opiate, I honestly wouldn't give a flying fuk about what they have to put out.

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Sneer

my favourite prog bands would have to be radiohead or the mars volta, im a fan of some of van der graafs stuff but my knowledge of them is limited.

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TheBig3

So you think there best disc is the one that isn't even full length, and you picked the guy who once was in green jelly.

You can tell the kids begging for credibility a mile away. And there just as bad as the kids who listen to nickleback, cause there doing the same thing just in the opposite direction. You stick to your anti-anything thats good attitude. Thats why they write songs like hooker with a penis, cause your just as bad as what you rally against.