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Tommyrocker 02-04-2005 12:32 PM

now now girls, put the handbags down. :whythis: :offtopic:

Kurt_Cobain 02-05-2005 01:15 PM

I think Queen have been described as prog rock. I like Queen but I dont really like prog rock as a whole. I think its a pointless sub-genre. Please dont shout at me if you dissagree it's just an opinion. :shycouch:

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-05-2005 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt_Cobain
I think Queen have been described as prog rock.

Only by deaf people

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Originally Posted by Kurt_Cobain
I like Queen but I dont really like prog rock as a whole. I think its a pointless sub-genre. Please dont shout at me if you dissagree it's just an opinion. :shycouch:

Thats OK , if you`re happy with liking Nickelback & Evanesence you go on listening to that.

Kurt_Cobain 02-06-2005 05:31 AM

I am happy listening to Nickelback I think they're a good band. But I listen to tonnes of bands you cant really judge a taste by one band can you?


And Queen were described as prog rock by 'Guitarist' magazine and im thinking they know what they're talking about.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 02-06-2005 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurt_Cobain
And Queen were described as prog rock by 'Guitarist' magazine and im thinking they know what they're talking about.

Im thinking that the people from 'Guitarist' magazine are people just like everyone else. Everyone has their own opinion when it comes to genres. Genres suck. Im boycotting genres.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-06-2005 05:35 AM

I wouldn`t wipe my arse with 'Guitarist' magazine

Sneer 02-06-2005 08:46 AM

its pretty fair to say you dont like prog rock. its your opinion right. i personally like it because it tests musical boundries. i can see why queen may be sen as prog, nobody before them really incorporated opera with rock did they? they were very experimental with harmonies.

gongadin 10-10-2005 02:42 PM

Queen and Pink Floyd are good, i've got a few of their albums

boo boo 10-11-2005 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Some of the earlier stuff was ok, I don`t mind some early King Cimson or Van Der Graaf Generator but when bands like Genesis, Emerson Lake & Palmer & Yes came along it just turned into pretentious self indulgent twaddle.

I disagree there, Yes and Genesis were great, i really dont get why people bash prog so much, because its pretentious?, they say that like its such a bad thing, rock n roll has been pretentious from the very start, hell The Beatles, David Bowie, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix and The Velvet Underground were all pretentious...Prog was just another way for rock to be pretentious, it was basicly rock that put more emphasis on making music as an artform rather than a sorce of entertainment, pretty much in the tradition of classical music, i dont see why this is a bad thing, the reasons people give for attacking prog seem silly to me, the music is too long, its too weird, the lyrics are too obscure, the music is too technical and they don't write with passion(whatever the hell that means), so what does that make classical music and jazz?, are those genres just pretentious crap as well?, some people even say its unimaginative and that is just flatout wrong, prog is one of the most imaginitive forms of rock music, to me the only valid explanation for people to hate prog so much is because they either lack the capability to understand it or they are just too close minded to appreciate other forms of music that they are not used to, who wrote the book on music and said that songs always have to be less than 2 minutes long, with miminal instrumental talent, lyrics that take about 10 seconds to write and the same generic pop sound as other songs?, it makes no sense to me, i never understood why the punk movement was so hateful to almost every other style of music that was different from their own, its like they had short attention spans or they were bitter for being so incapable and talentless on their instruments...Oh look at me, i sound like a bitter old man longing for the good old days, i still love punk, and im not generalizing punk music, im just refering to how punk music purists generalize prog, i just wont understand it, ever...To me prog is one of the most diverse and original rock subgenres, if you don't like prog its ok, but to bash a whole genre because you dont like it, that i dont understand, i really hate it when people discriminate against bands because of their genre or their label, thats what people do with punk bands, they get bashed quite a lot from metal fans and prog fans alike, yet punk fans tend to do the same when it comes to prog bands, why can't more people appreciate every genre for what its worth?, i like prog and punk, why does that have to be so rare?

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DontRunMeOver 10-11-2005 08:10 AM

Prog-rock seems to be a term that is used whenever a band doesn't just repeat one verse and one chorus chord sequence for the whole song. To those lengths, how good the resulting music is varies hugely depending on whether the band know why they're changing all of the chords of if they're just doing it to look clever.

Queen liked using lots of extended, complicated chord sequences but they actually worked in the song (the same way that lots of good jazz songs have complicated chords underneath) and so the music came out really well.

Bands like YES, from what little I've heard, seemed to be using the complications just to prove to themselves that they knew all of the chords shapes. So it just sounded a bit anal.

Most prog-rock wasn't really progressive as it didn't encourage many people to learn from it and push musical boundaries further, because it rarely pulled together to give something coherent. It got people into punk and simplicity instead!


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