Prog album covers

TockTockTock · 04-20-2011, 10:28 AM

Sorry. Never considered Faust to be progressive rock. They seem to be more musique concrete/free improvisation/experimental rock. I guess their album, Faust So Far, as some traditional prog elements in it, though.

And no, I consider RIO/avant-prog to be a form of progressive rock. Being an avid fan of Henry Cow and Univers Zero, I would know this. Don't jump to conclusions, my friend...

TockTockTock · 04-20-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

Baggs, I think your presence on the boards reflects poorly on the little that remains of a prog community here. If you're gonna treat everything like a contest between you and everyone else here instead of trying to integrate into the community, then I suggest you go do it to the guys at progarchives.com instead. Noone here's interested in a proggier-than-thou competition as it's generally something only morons would engage in.

Pretty much this. One of the things I like most about our prog community is that you don't feel a sense of competition or superiority amongst the other participants.

Howard the Duck · 04-20-2011, 10:39 AM

no my taste in prog is superior to all prog-listeners worldwide

~~Baggs~~ · 04-20-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

Sorry. Never considered Faust to be progressive rock. They seem to be more musique concrete/free improvisation/experimental rock. I guess their album, Faust So Far, as some traditional prog elements in it, though.

And no, I consider RIO/avant-prog to be a form of progressive rock. Being an avid fan of Henry Cow and Univers Zero, I would know this. Don't jump to conclusions, my friend...

So, obviously Faust is just as experimental as are RIO bands (moreso, Id say than RIO like Stormy Six). And much-mucho RIO is improv. So then, shouldnt be any difficulty in incorporating them in prog since you fit RIO with prog.

Anyways - no good getting caught up in thois sorta talk.
The music itself...and dissemination of, is what counts.

TockTockTock · 04-20-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Baggs

So, obviously Faust is just as experimental as are RIO bands (moreso, Id say than RIO like Stormy Six). And much-mucho RIO is improv. So then, shouldnt be any difficulty in incorporating them in prog since you fit RIO with prog.

If you go by that mentality, then you could say that Derek Bailey is prog in the sense of free improvisation or Jandek in the sense of experimentation. (To my knowledge, neither of those are considered prog rock). Some people consider Faust prog rock - I do not.

TockTockTock · 04-20-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Baggs

Anyways - no good getting caught up in thois sorta talk.
The music itself...and dissemination of, is what counts.

I agree, but if you continue this superiority complex you've cooked up, then you'll most likely find yourself in this type of situation quite often.

Phantom Limb · 04-20-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Baggs

Thats one horrid cd. (I found it in the public library a few months back and gave a listen.)

As to the coverart, I submit a worthy title to the cd would have been:
"What manner of vagina did THAT pop out of?"

I thought this album was pretty dope actually, but I think that's a pretty unpopular opinion (because you punks don't understand it).

~~Baggs~~ · 04-20-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

One of the things I like most about our prog community is that you don't feel a sense of competition or superiority amongst the other participants.

Competition in a way is at the root of progressive thought.
Without competition (and , of course discipline) you dont get superior product.
One-hand-clap = stagnation.

Like what was happening here before Baggs arrived!

By the way - whats the deal with this Boo-Boo/ Seems he was writing informative posts...then he is banned???

Is that the kind of poster your out to discourage here in favour of the collective pat on the back?

TockTockTock · 04-20-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Baggs

Competition in a way is at the root of progressive thought.
Without competition (and , of course discipline) you dont get superior product.

Uhm... art can stand on its own and be created without the need for competition. Whether it is deemed "superior" (which is an illogical concept in itself) lies within the individual's view of it.

I don't really think you can enjoy the music either if you constantly feel the need to be more knowledgeable of it than those around you.

~~Baggs~~ · 04-20-2011, 03:20 PM

If you dont have faith enough in the art you create to deem it superior - or at least near the level of your vision, what have you created that has any worth?

Youve just approached the level of status quo.
Thats all.

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TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	Sorry. Never considered Faust to be progressive rock. They seem to be more musique concrete/free improvisation/experimental rock. I guess their album, Faust So Far, as some traditional prog elements in it, though. And no, I consider RIO/avant-prog to be a form of progressive rock. Being an avid fan of Henry Cow and Univers Zero, I would know this. Don't jump to conclusions, my friend...

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~~Baggs~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Leutonia Proper Posts: 128	If you dont have faith enough in the art you create to deem it superior - or at least near the level of your vision, what have you created that has any worth? Youve just approached the level of status quo. Thats all.