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View Poll Results: What's your favorite album from my favorite band?
Time & A World 0 0%
The Yes Album 6 4.44%
Fragile 32 23.70%
Close to the Edge 56 41.48%
Yessongs 4 2.96%
Tales From Topographic Oceans 8 5.93%
Relayer 4 2.96%
Going For the One 4 2.96%
Drama 4 2.96%
90125 6 4.44%
Magnification 2 1.48%
Other (what's wrong with you?) 9 6.67%
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Old 08-01-2022, 09:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Look, as a movement, yes, certainly, progressive rock could only be progressive while there was something to progress to, and like all movements, once this is achieved you can't realistically call what follows that progressive.

So any album after, I would say arbitrary date, 1976, maybe, could be said not to be progressive in that sense.

But as a descriptor for a genre, I go with the seven accepted criteria:
Long tracks, usually 6 - 10 minutes or longer
Esoteric lyrical matter (mythology, fantasy, literature, history etc)
Non-standard musical instruments (cello, harp, violin, flute, harmonica, harpsichord etc)
Song suites
Non-standard song structures (no verse/verse/chorus/verse, generally)
Long instrumental passages, often introduction and/or outro
Predominance of keyboard, maybe acoustic guitar

As long as an album or artist fulfills at least five of these criteria, I consider them prog. You're free not to, but don't be a prog snob about it and try to pigeonhole all prog rock as being before 1972. That's just stupid and very arrogant. What about

Spock's Beard
Rush
Marillion
Big Big Train
Fish on Friday
Gazpacho
Arena
Mostly Autumn
Genesis mid-seventies to early eighties
Touchstone
Red Sand
and a hundred others? You can't discount them and say they're not progressive rock.

They may not be YOUR idea of prog rock, but they still qualify.

And I was born in 1963 as it happens, so there's no need to be snippy. Genesis were my first prog band, then Marillion and Rush, Mostly Autumn, and so on. The world didn't stop in 1972 dude, take my word for it. Don't be caught dead with a prog album after that year if you want, but don't expect everyone else to agree with you. There's a whole lot of superb prog out there if you could take off your blinders and just look for it, but if you don't wish to do that, live in 1972. You're welcome to it. You're missing a whole lot of great music though.

Oh, FYI: I never put myself forward as an expert. I've learned, and continue to learn, a lot while writing my History of Prog journal, but I'm nowhere near an expert. I'm simply a prog head, someone who enjoys listening to prog. So please don't put words or claims into my mouth.
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Old 08-01-2022, 01:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The entire concert is great. A lotta good tunes spanning multiple albums:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTk7KmCNOJE
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My favourite is Magnification. I'm a sucker for rock/orchestra fusions, ELO being the textbook example. So in many ways that album felt tailor-made to my tastes. Personally I liked it a lot more than Time and a Word, simply because I liked the songs and general production more.
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Old 08-24-2023, 02:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I picked Going For the One.

To me this is the one that hits the sweet spot between progressive and accessible.
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I like Fragile,90125 and Big Generator the most out of all of them.......
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Old 07-29-2024, 01:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I like all of those listed, plus a couple of others (esp. the debut, Talk and event Tormato...); I voted Relayer.
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Old 07-31-2024, 01:06 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I voted Going For The One just because of memories associated with it.

Rick Wakeman on farewell tour!

3rd Oct Tarrytown Music Hall, Tarrytown, NY, USA
4th Oct SHU Community Theater, Fairfield, CT, USA
5th Oct UCPAC, Rahway, NJ, USA
6th Oct Troy Savings Bank Music Hall, Troy, NY, USA
8th Oct Narrows Center for the Arts, Fall River, MA, USA
10th Oct The Theater at Innovation Square, Rochester, NY, USA
11th Oct Electric City, Buffalo, NY, USA
13th Oct The Kent Stage, Kent, OH, USA
15th Oct Arcada Theatre, St. Charles, IL, USA
17th Oct Fitzgerald Theatre, Saint Paul, MN, USA
19th Oct Milwaukee Performing Arts Center, Milwaukee, WI, USA
20th Oct The Sheldon Concert Hall, St Louis, MO, USA
22nd Oct Musical Instrument Museum, Phoenix, AZ, USA
24th Oct Longhorn Ballroom, Dallas, TX, USA
26th Oct The Heights Theater, Houston, TX, USA
28th Oct Variety Playhouse, Atlanta, GA, USA
31st Oct Carolina Theatre of Durham, Durham, NC, USA
2nd Nov Lansdowne Theater, Lansdowne, PA, USA

UK dates begin in November
https://www.rwcc.com/live.php
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^ Thanks for the info. I've only seen RW live when with Yes, at the ABWH and Yes Union tours (so that's a while back...), never on a solo tour. Might be interesting. I hope he will have some dates on the continent.
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My vote went to The Yes Album. It's really the only album from the band I really like. The interest I once had in progressive/prop/whatever didn't last very long.
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^ Thanks for the info. I've only seen RW live when with Yes, at the ABWH and Yes Union tours (so that's a while back...), never on a solo tour. Might be interesting. I hope he will have some dates on the continent.
The show nearest me has a pretty nice career bio included with ticket info.
https://kentstage.org/event/rick-wak...age/kent-ohio/

The one time I saw Yes was with an orchestra and Rick Wakeman was not on that tour. The show taught me that not every song sounds better with an orchestra!

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The interest I once had in progressive/prop/whatever didn't last very long.
I can still listen and enjoy some prog/alt/underground/avant-garde but it's mostly the stuff I listened to as a ute when I fancied myself an enlightened lad. I've since accepted that I'm a rust-belt rube and don't challenge my progressively shrinking attention span.

However, I am very grateful for those heady days of late night college radio. Bands like Yes, ELP, Genesis and King Crimson were the mainstream fare. I loved the nightly excursions listening to bands like Gong, Gentle Giant, Renaissance, Van Der Graaf Generator, Hoslips and countless others. The DJs would almost take on a top 40 persona when playing new artists like UK and Brand X. Oh, those were the days my friend.
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