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Queen Boo 07-31-2022 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Made in 1968 (Post 2212677)
No not real proper prog what ever that means LOL.

All the above you mentioned aren not Prog albums. LOL. Just because say Sgt peppers was full of experimentation does not make it progressive, you are just assuming it fits the bill However they are more related to Psychedia than anything, Only the years from then to near the back end of the 60's thru Proto prog bands into Crossover prog did major labels create offshoots such as EMI Harvest & Swirl Vertigo. Styles in music are very short before they morph into other things as were the longevity of Swirl Vertigo & RCA Neon.

The Pink Floyd & Soft Machine were doing things in 1967 that were not disimular to What Tangerine Dream were doing at the Zodiac club , Berlin around the same time, No way on earth is it Progressive Rock.

Genres are things we made up.

Made in 1968 07-31-2022 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen Boo (Post 2212678)
I've long been an avid defender of that album so while I disagree with this take I respect your chutzpah.

The funny thing about that album is people dont like it yet Some of Steve Howe & Rick Wakeman best playing is within the album. Jon Anderson solo LP: 'Olias Of Sunhillow' should be attractive to Topographics fans because its it very simular atmosphere to it.

The Batlord 07-31-2022 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen Boo (Post 2212678)
I've long been an avid defender of that album so while I disagree with this take I respect your chutzpah.

Lol I was hoping to stir up **** cause I remember an ancient thread with Urban ****ting on it and you being like yeah even prog nerds think it's wank.

The Batlord 07-31-2022 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Made in 1968 (Post 2212680)
The funny thing about that album is people dont like it yet Some of Steve Howe & Rick Wakeman best playing is within the album. Jon Anderson solo LP: 'Olias Of Sunhillow' should be attractive to Topographics fans because its it very simular atmosphere to it.

I'll give it a shot. Topographic Oceans is everything I want from an overblown 70s prog album.

Made in 1968 07-31-2022 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2212681)
Lol I was hoping to stir up **** cause I remember an ancient thread with Urban ****ting on it and you being like yeah even prog nerds think it's wank.

Put it this way. Prog is everything i live for in music but i wouldnt be seen dead with any prog album past 1972.

The Batlord 07-31-2022 02:11 PM

So a dad rocker.

Made in 1968 07-31-2022 02:42 PM

No just someone that knows what good & naff Prog is LOL

Queen Boo 07-31-2022 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Made in 1968 (Post 2212680)
The funny thing about that album is people dont like it yet Some of Steve Howe & Rick Wakeman best playing is within the album. Jon Anderson solo LP: 'Olias Of Sunhillow' should be attractive to Topographics fans because its it very simular atmosphere to it.

I think Tales is a great album that falls just short of being a masterpiece because it is a bit padded out in places, there was too much good material for a single LP but not quite enough for a double LP, a victim of the limitations of vinyl, also the production of the original album was a little murky and the 2016 Steven Wilson remaster is a big improvement.

Olias of Sunhillow is a lovely underrated gem of an album, definitely needs more recognition.

Queen Boo 07-31-2022 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2212681)
Lol I was hoping to stir up **** cause I remember an ancient thread with Urban ****ting on it and you being like yeah even prog nerds think it's wank.

Did I say that? In prog circles it's rather divisive but it's not universally disliked, yeah some people hate it but it also has some pretty vocal fans including myself.

It's rating on ProgArchives is 3.91 which is not bad though that is still a bit lower than most of their 70s albums, still it's no Tormato which is their true nadir from that decade.

The Batlord 07-31-2022 03:12 PM

As not an insufferable prog nerd I don't care if it's padded. The heights it reaches are unmatched.


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