Sgt. Pepper's, S.F Sorrow or Piper at the gates of dawn? (albums, fan)

WeeLittleHobbit · 02-03-2009, 06:53 PM

Ah, spot on for catching my rather blatant mistake. Even if Abbey Road did come after S.F. Sorrow, it still has a very Beatle-like feel to it. To me, Phil May's voice often sounds a tad bit like John Lennon, and the guitar effects and background instrumentals remind me of that signature Beatles style.

And yes, I know that Jagger and Richards were both in the band in the beginning. Perhaps one reason why they are disliked by some is because they threatened to "out stone" the Stones?

If this album is any indication of how their other work might be (I haven't heard anything else), then I might just like prefer guys more than the Stones themselves. I've never been fully able to get into the Stones music, though I do enjoy alot of their songs. I don't really get what all the hype is around them...

But anyway, what's there not to like about Tommy? I thought it was a great new direction for the Who. I now see the influence that S.F. Sorrow had on it, but I wouldn't consider it a knock-off or anything...

jazzrocks · 02-03-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WeeLittleHobbit

Ah, spot on for catching my rather blatant mistake. Even if Abbey Road did come after S.F. Sorrow, it still has a very Beatle-like feel to it. To me, Phil May's voice often sounds a tad bit like John Lennon, and the guitar effects and background instrumentals remind me of that signature Beatles style.

And yes, I know that Jagger and Richards were both in the band in the beginning. Perhaps one reason why they are disliked by some is because they threatened to "out stone" the Stones?

If this album is any indication of how their other work might be (I haven't heard anything else), then I might just like prefer guys more than the Stones themselves. I've never been fully able to get into the Stones music, though I do enjoy alot of their songs. I don't really get what all the hype is around them...

But anyway, what's there not to like about Tommy? I thought it was a great new direction for the Who. I now see the influence that S.F. Sorrow had on it, but I wouldn't consider it a knock-off or anything...

Revolver and Sgt Pepper were recorded and released before S.F.Sorrow. Sorrow was released in 1968. It sort of reminds me of Zombies' "Odessey and Oracle" also. "Walking through my dreams" sounds like it was influenced by the Beatles Rubber/Revolver circa. I would not be suprised S.F. Sorrow influenced Tommy. Overall I would put Revolver over all these albums on this list including Pepper

lucifer_sam · 02-03-2009, 08:37 PM

S.F. Sorrow was recorded across the hall in the same few months as the other two albums. Release dates really don't mean anything.

jazzrocks · 02-04-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

S.F. Sorrow was recorded across the hall in the same few months as the other two albums. Release dates really don't mean anything.

All I know the Beatles started recording Sgt Pepper in Nov of 1966 and "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "Penny Lane" were released in Feb of 1967. Songs like "A Day in the Life" and 'Sgt Pepper" were already recorded before Pink Floyd even finished recording their first single "Arnold Layne". I remember reading that S.F. Sorrow was recorded when the Beatles were finishing of the last songs of Pepper. What does it matter anyway they all influenced each other?

Sneer · 02-04-2009, 05:12 PM

Does anybody have an up for S. F Sorrow? Im rather keen on listening to it

Mojo · 02-04-2009, 06:32 PM

^ Hooked up

Alfred · 02-04-2009, 06:34 PM

mind sending that my way as well?

Mojo · 02-04-2009, 06:39 PM

No problem.

lucifer_sam · 02-04-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzrocks

All I know the Beatles started recording Sgt Pepper in Nov of 1966 and "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "Penny Lane" were released in Feb of 1967. Songs like "A Day in the Life" and 'Sgt Pepper" were already recorded before Pink Floyd even finished recording their first single "Arnold Layne". I remember reading that S.F. Sorrow was recorded when the Beatles were finishing of the last songs of Pepper. What does it matter anyway they all influenced each other?

One thing about classic rock bands (especially the Beatles, the Who, the Stones) is they refuse to label their contemporaries as influences. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but there's a general distaste to declare lateral influences. Bearing that in mind there are concrete reasons why these albums sounded so similar. They had the same set of studio engineers. S.F. Sorrow and Piper at the Gates of Dawn had the same producer, who also produced early Beatles works (Norman Smith).

zappafan23 · 02-05-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fruitonica

No, actually I don't have any Pink Floyd albums.

Don't worry, I'll get round to listening to them soon.

I cant believe you havent listened to Piper, how could you even vote? Lol....

The Floyd are one of my top bands, as are the Beatles, but I really have to say Sgt. Peppers.. It's almost 1a and 1b though...

View Poll Results: Which one's your favourite?
Sgt. Pepper's lonely hearts club band	59	52.21%
S.F Sorrow	11	9.73%
Piper at the gates of dawn	43	38.05%
Voters: 113. You may not vote on this poll

02-03-2009, 06:53 PM	#41 (permalink)
WeeLittleHobbit The Stain Specialist Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 312	Ah, spot on for catching my rather blatant mistake. Even if Abbey Road did come after S.F. Sorrow, it still has a very Beatle-like feel to it. To me, Phil May's voice often sounds a tad bit like John Lennon, and the guitar effects and background instrumentals remind me of that signature Beatles style. And yes, I know that Jagger and Richards were both in the band in the beginning. Perhaps one reason why they are disliked by some is because they threatened to "out stone" the Stones? If this album is any indication of how their other work might be (I haven't heard anything else), then I might just like prefer guys more than the Stones themselves. I've never been fully able to get into the Stones music, though I do enjoy alot of their songs. I don't really get what all the hype is around them... But anyway, what's there not to like about Tommy? I thought it was a great new direction for the Who. I now see the influence that S.F. Sorrow had on it, but I wouldn't consider it a knock-off or anything... __________________ Tommy: I'm funny how? Funny like a clown? I amuse you? I'm here to fcking amuse you? What do you mean, funny? How am I funny? Henry: You know, how you tell a story. Tommy*: I don't know. You said it. You said I'm funny. How am I funny?

02-03-2009, 08:37 PM	#43 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	S.F. Sorrow was recorded across the hall in the same few months as the other two albums. Release dates really don't mean anything. __________________ first.am

02-04-2009, 05:12 PM	#45 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	Does anybody have an up for S. F Sorrow? Im rather keen on listening to it __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

02-04-2009, 06:34 PM	#47 (permalink)
Alfred one big soul Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 5,096	mind sending that my way as well? __________________ LAST.FM / VINYL COLLECTION / RYM

02-04-2009, 06:32 PM	#46 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	^ Hooked up

02-04-2009, 06:39 PM	#48 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	No problem.