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WeeLittleHobbit 02-03-2009 05:53 PM

Ah, spot on for catching my rather blatant mistake. Even if Abbey Road did come after S.F. Sorrow, it still has a very Beatle-like feel to it. To me, Phil May's voice often sounds a tad bit like John Lennon, and the guitar effects and background instrumentals remind me of that signature Beatles style.

And yes, I know that Jagger and Richards were both in the band in the beginning. Perhaps one reason why they are disliked by some is because they threatened to "out stone" the Stones?

If this album is any indication of how their other work might be (I haven't heard anything else), then I might just like prefer guys more than the Stones themselves. I've never been fully able to get into the Stones music, though I do enjoy alot of their songs. I don't really get what all the hype is around them...

But anyway, what's there not to like about Tommy? I thought it was a great new direction for the Who. I now see the influence that S.F. Sorrow had on it, but I wouldn't consider it a knock-off or anything...

jazzrocks 02-03-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WeeLittleHobbit (Post 590101)
Ah, spot on for catching my rather blatant mistake. Even if Abbey Road did come after S.F. Sorrow, it still has a very Beatle-like feel to it. To me, Phil May's voice often sounds a tad bit like John Lennon, and the guitar effects and background instrumentals remind me of that signature Beatles style.

And yes, I know that Jagger and Richards were both in the band in the beginning. Perhaps one reason why they are disliked by some is because they threatened to "out stone" the Stones?

If this album is any indication of how their other work might be (I haven't heard anything else), then I might just like prefer guys more than the Stones themselves. I've never been fully able to get into the Stones music, though I do enjoy alot of their songs. I don't really get what all the hype is around them...

But anyway, what's there not to like about Tommy? I thought it was a great new direction for the Who. I now see the influence that S.F. Sorrow had on it, but I wouldn't consider it a knock-off or anything...

Revolver and Sgt Pepper were recorded and released before S.F.Sorrow. Sorrow was released in 1968. It sort of reminds me of Zombies' "Odessey and Oracle" also. "Walking through my dreams" sounds like it was influenced by the Beatles Rubber/Revolver circa. I would not be suprised S.F. Sorrow influenced Tommy. Overall I would put Revolver over all these albums on this list including Pepper

lucifer_sam 02-03-2009 07:37 PM

S.F. Sorrow was recorded across the hall in the same few months as the other two albums. Release dates really don't mean anything.

jazzrocks 02-04-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 590169)
S.F. Sorrow was recorded across the hall in the same few months as the other two albums. Release dates really don't mean anything.

All I know the Beatles started recording Sgt Pepper in Nov of 1966 and "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "Penny Lane" were released in Feb of 1967. Songs like "A Day in the Life" and 'Sgt Pepper" were already recorded before Pink Floyd even finished recording their first single "Arnold Layne". I remember reading that S.F. Sorrow was recorded when the Beatles were finishing of the last songs of Pepper. What does it matter anyway they all influenced each other?

Sneer 02-04-2009 04:12 PM

Does anybody have an up for S. F Sorrow? Im rather keen on listening to it

Mojo 02-04-2009 05:32 PM

^ Hooked up

Alfred 02-04-2009 05:34 PM

mind sending that my way as well?

Mojo 02-04-2009 05:39 PM

No problem.

lucifer_sam 02-04-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzrocks (Post 590490)
All I know the Beatles started recording Sgt Pepper in Nov of 1966 and "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "Penny Lane" were released in Feb of 1967. Songs like "A Day in the Life" and 'Sgt Pepper" were already recorded before Pink Floyd even finished recording their first single "Arnold Layne". I remember reading that S.F. Sorrow was recorded when the Beatles were finishing of the last songs of Pepper. What does it matter anyway they all influenced each other?

One thing about classic rock bands (especially the Beatles, the Who, the Stones) is they refuse to label their contemporaries as influences. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but there's a general distaste to declare lateral influences. Bearing that in mind there are concrete reasons why these albums sounded so similar. They had the same set of studio engineers. S.F. Sorrow and Piper at the Gates of Dawn had the same producer, who also produced early Beatles works (Norman Smith).

zappafan23 02-05-2009 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fruitonica (Post 563657)
No, actually I don't have any Pink Floyd albums.:shycouch: Don't worry, I'll get round to listening to them soon.

:confused:

I cant believe you havent listened to Piper, how could you even vote? Lol....

The Floyd are one of my top bands, as are the Beatles, but I really have to say Sgt. Peppers.. It's almost 1a and 1b though...


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