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10-30-2009 09:13 AM |
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Originally Posted by mr dave
(Post 760203)
i don't think it's an issue of wankery so much as a bad production decision to mix the lead guitar track in a way that it overpowers the rest of the band. is this supposed to be a solo piece? it gets kind of wank-ish around 4 minutes in when he starts repeating himself more than anything.
the multi-tracked fuzz guitar is kind of excessive as well. it's great if you want to ripoff Black Dog, but in a group with a horn section to accentuate melodic passages it's superfluous.
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That song is from Birds of Fire from 1973 which is one of the (if not the) most appreciated Mahavishnu Orchestra albums. That trademark sound is what you find on the whole record basically.
I agree that the guitar is way ahead in the mix. It's almost vulgar .. You wanna sit down in your couch and relax with a little jazz fusion and you get the impression McLaughlin is standing on the table with the guitar up in your face. Okay, that's a bit exaggerated, but I find it a bit disruptive. :p:
The way it's mixed is of course a concious choice and it's not the only Mahavishnu album with that sound.
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Originally Posted by Kole
(Post 760245)
Well, all guitarists from good jazz fusion bands are geniuses, since jazz fusion is the hardest thing to master on guitar. McLaughlin is not underrated, it's just that people in majority don't listen to jazz fusion, so he is little known (I guess?). Those who DO know Mahavishnu Orchestra (or Shakti) think of John as one of the best.
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I don't think he's little known - or at least not around here. I was wondering earlier why people hadn't responded more in anger to my post :p: Anyways, much of his playing doesn't sound aesthetic to me and then genius skill becomes just an interesting word or something. There's an incredible amount of amazingly skilled guitar players in the world - it's not that rare - and I tend to think of technical ability itself as a poor way to actually rate players as musicians.
I should rephr point out though, I like some of John's stuff, particularly the stuff he did with Lucia and Meola .. but I can only take so much of it in one sitting and while good, I definetly think of him as overrated and a bit of a guitar wanker in a skill over overall quality kind of way.
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