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Old 06-12-2008, 09:27 PM   #81 (permalink)
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After reading all the posts in this thread, I've come to the shocking conclusion that I know almost nothing about Pink Floyd, even though they are one of my favorite bands. Regardless I like PF without Waters more than I like Waters without PF. David Gilmour's solo albums I also enjoy more than Water's solo material, Roger just seems to be so depressing most of the time, I think one of the major reasons the band fragmented was they were tired of his Domineering Presence doing all the writing and not giving them a chance to contribute more of their own songs. So I'll have to say I think Gilmour is the more talented of the two main powers behind the post-Barrett PF.
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:43 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Sgt. Peppers doesn't have **** on Beetoven
I disagree, beethoven was a genius but just because he's timeless and was classically trained doesn't mean 20th century artists can't write material just as creative and original.

Now, in barret's case.

He didn't have anywhere near the musical depth to write music like time, us and them, the trial, or echoes.

summer '68 is a good one too
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:57 PM   #83 (permalink)
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I disagree, beethoven was a genius but just because he's timeless and was classically trained doesn't mean 20th century artists can't write material just as creative and original.

Now, in barret's case.

He didn't have anywhere near the musical depth to write music like time, us and them, the trial, or echoes.

summer '68 is a good one too
It is not always about 'musical depth'. Barrett was a true one off who combined a unique approach to guitar music coupled with a timeless English eccentricity and in the space of an 18 month recording career (with The Floyd) took English music in a completely different direction. His influence is easily on a par with late Beatles. The push for artistic freedom is almost perfectly encapsulated by Barrets career. Although some of his compositions are now heralded as pop classics, Syd despised this side of music and helped usher in an age of experimentation and freedom of expression which this conservative country was crying out for.

In certain cases, influence, character and individualism is as important as musicianship and in that respect Syd will always stand tall.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:00 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Being more influencial dosent make him better though.

And don't overstate Barretts originality, he mostly took american psychedelic rock and made it trippier, and more distinctly English.

Personally Piper and Madcap Laughs don't come close to the best of Waters/Gilmour era Floyd.
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His influence is easily on a par with late Beatles.
that's one of the most ludicrous things I've ever read
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Old 06-16-2008, 10:31 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:04 PM   #87 (permalink)
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that's one of the most ludicrous things I've ever read
Your username is a Barrett era Floyd song and you say he is not as influential? McCartney himself called him a genius. He also influenced Bowie, Bolan, Townsend, Hendrix (who caught them live at the UFO club). His music has been covered by : REM, the Flaming Lips, Placebo and Smashing Pumpkins. So I certainly think it is not ludicrous to suggest that Barrett is as influential as the late Beatles work and his work echoes through so much British guitar based music.
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:05 PM   #88 (permalink)
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Well Barrett if you want to take everybody who had ever been in the band.

More importantly, NOT ROGER WALTERS. Whoever says that is making the most ridiculous claim of all time.

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Being more influencial dosent make him better though.

And don't overstate Barretts originality, he mostly took american psychedelic rock and made it trippier, and more distinctly English.
And the Beatles took american psychedelic rock and made it poppier, and more distinctly English. Whoop-te-bloody do.

I agree about Barrett's influence being on par with the Beatles. Great great musician.
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Old 06-17-2008, 09:35 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:54 AM   #90 (permalink)
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Yeah the truth hurts.
Oh give me a break.

Don't be a fanboy. Influencing the whole freak folk thing thats really hot now dosen't put you on par with The Beatles.
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