Most Talented Member of Pink Floyd (singer, bass, metal, rock)

sleepy jack · 03-22-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ADELE

the absurd suggestion that been a person who inspires something makes them responsible for the product which is utterly rubbish.

LOL

I'm not going to bother responding to your post because you're still doing the same arrogant crap jackhammer accused you of. You have your facts wrong and I don't feel like correcting them to you because as you've proven it's a useless thing to do.

Rainard Jalen · 03-22-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

No single member "was" Pink Floyd. It wouldn't have been Pink Floyd without Roger's thought-stirring lyrics, nor would it have been Pink Floyd without David's serene yet emotional guitar work, nor would it have been Pink Floyd without Rick's completory, resplendent piano/keyboard playing, and so on...

My personal favourite would have to be Syd though.

BUT it was Pink Floyd without Syd...

~~ADELE~~ · 03-22-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

LOL

I'm not going to bother responding to your post because you're still doing the same arrogant crap jackhammer accused you of. You have your facts wrong and I don't feel like correcting them to you because as you've proven it's a useless thing to do.

You don't need to you can just write the best selling album of all time and get critical aclaim as you have the inspiration of the whole history of mankind.
You can't comment a single thing about the floyd because you don't know anything about them because if you did you would as you never failed to before.
Jalen is the only moderator who is balanced and is both objective and fair not making sweeping statements.
Still, you do have a great forum here and probably the best on the web so you can't be too bad.
Maybe some other people should debate the floyd and the issues about the floyd.
Did you know that Water's can't write another Floyd song by law or perform most of them live? Unless Gilmour says so.
And did you know that Floyd are making one last album as we speak?
This means Waters and Gilmour have burried the hatchet.
The album is going to be about death and later generations to come.
Good old floyd, always singing about frivilous topics!!

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-22-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ADELE

Hey man I didn't start arguing. I will post again if that is the case to see something through.
I put up a decent question and crowquill instantly said about malcolm which was from another of my threads totally unrelated and uncalled for then made the absurd suggestion that been a person who inspires something makes them responsible for the product which is utterly rubbish. If they knew their music they would know that many of the songs were actually about their other friends and wives and each other. Water's main topic was his dead father not syd.
Then people said because I spelt a name wrong the case is closed. Explain that? Yet everyone has made spelling errors here I just don't point them out as I get their point being made and that is what matters. in a debate that is fast and instant you don't bother doing spell checks as the other person is waiting for a response to their point quickly. Style over substance is what the not so bright kids at school worked on when we grew up and went to school.
By throwing their derision on everything I did, exposing every weakness how other moderators write...???
Crowquill also said John Lennon was crap.
A moderator also said Imagine isn't even in his top 100 songs. I don't even think as a solo artist he made 100 songs and to say Imagine isn't in top 100????
As for women in Rock yes I was named about ten women. Doesn't that just validate my point?
Ten out of all the thousands or rock bands there have been and albums made?
Out of all the bands there have been in rock history? That wouldn't even rank as a full percentage point in any rock statistic because women are pop, jazz and so on not rock. that was my point. Not sexist just a fact that rock like playing football is 99% male.
Moderators don't make any valid points about floyd here if they do where is the arguement for waters who claimed he wrote 85% at least of DSOTM and all of the wall and much of wish you were here?
And also that he wrote and co wrote syds material making him the most talented throughout? Moderators never mentioned this becuase they don't know it.
What about the court case that debated who had the right to own the name Pink Floyd which Gilmour won and then they toured with waters doing his own band and not allowing the others to play any of his songs?
What about waters actually finishing much of the Piper himself as syd was too ill but not taking credit as he loved syd but later it became clear to music writers that he and Gilmour actually done most of the studio work on that album as Syd was not able to attend sessions?
Do the moderators mention any of these things?
No, they ignore the thread title and debate obscure opinions about where talent lies like Plato's or Aristotle's.
This is because they don't know as much about music as they like to let on.
I don't comment on rap or blues either because I know nought about them. But I know what I know about rock and punk.
And one last thing, when people attack someone personally without wit it is because they don't have the arguement on the subject. I don't mean witty messing but just insulting about spelling when everyone knows my points. It is also clear that some are using reverse tatics to accuse me of things they themselves have said. It is all on the boards for all to see it just may take a bit of time for your minds to catch up to mine as that is the way it always is with me.
I have not gone over the same point 15 times but noone has debated anything at all about the floyd ...yet.
I have literally had to say every angle myself so it isn't a debate it is just me making all the counter arguements because noone else has.
By the way I am a genius you just don't know who I am.

Write this all again only with all the bitching taken out so I can actually see the points your making and i'll happily respond.

right-track · 03-22-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ADELE

Jalen is the only moderator who is balanced and is both objective and fair not making sweeping statements.

^ Define moderator.

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Originally Posted by ADELE

By the way I am a genius

^ Define genius.

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Originally Posted by ADELE

you just don't know who I am.

^ For the answer to that...see Urbans sig.

~~ADELE~~ · 03-22-2008, 05:07 PM

are you his girlfriend or trying to get me banned?
I don't get what you mean by check his sig. It is a girl been knocked down by a man. Probably quite painful for her. If someone posted that of my girlfriend I'd track their IP and visit them.

jackhammer · 03-22-2008, 08:14 PM

By checking Urbans sig you would deduce that he knows a lot more about music and artists than you ever have and his last.fm tracklist is constantly surprising and full of eclectic bands.

right-track · 03-22-2008, 08:28 PM

"What am I then?"
The whole carriage hushed. Smith looked him up and down.
"You're a **** pal," he said.

^ This bit is what I had in mind.

SATCHMO · 03-23-2008, 01:38 AM

Hmmm ...Talented? Thats' a tough question to answer. I'd say that if you look at Floyd's Discography as a whole You'll see more of Gilmore's influence than any other band members. Roger Waters Is a decent bass player, an OK singer, and a good songwriter, but I think he's eclipsed by Gilmore in all three of those areas (so what if Waters pretty much wrote The Wall. Its a psychotherapy session put to music, and one of the most overrated pieces of music in rock n' roll history). I'm sure Barrett was very talented, but its hard to know whether you're crediting his genius or his neurosis when talking about him, and although his influence got the ball rolling, the band quickly evolved into an entirely different musical entity. I think Gilmour gets it for me.

~~ADELE~~ · 03-23-2008, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by right-track

"What am I then?"
The whole carriage hushed. Smith looked him up and down.
"You're a **** pal," he said.

^ This bit is what I had in mind.

And mark e smith aint?
pissy little skid who thinks he's a poet?
But your right I am a **** as people often find out. I am very very much one.

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Hmmm ...Talented? Thats' a tough question to answer. I'd say that if you look at Floyd's Discography as a whole You'll see more of Gilmore's influence than any other band members. Roger Waters Is a decent bass player, an OK singer, and a good songwriter, but I think he's eclipsed by Gilmore in all three of those areas (so what if Waters pretty much wrote The Wall. Its a psychotherapy session put to music, and one of the most overrated pieces of music in rock n' roll history). I'm sure Barrett was very talented, but its hard to know whether you're crediting his genius or his neurosis when talking about him, and although his influence got the ball rolling, the band quickly evolved into an entirely different musical entity. I think Gilmour gets it for me.

I'd go along with that totally.
That is a person who I think knows their stuff.
I also think that is why the court gave it to him and the other two backed him.
I love the remark about about waters!
I read he wanted to carry on on that theme but the others wanted more diversity and thought the wall was just too damn paranoid in it's depth.
Cheers SATCHMO!
good man.

03-22-2008, 08:14 PM	#37 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	By checking Urbans sig you would deduce that he knows a lot more about music and artists than you ever have and his last.fm tracklist is constantly surprising and full of eclectic bands. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

03-22-2008, 05:07 PM	#36 (permalink)
~~ADELE~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London Posts: 466	are you his girlfriend or trying to get me banned? I don't get what you mean by check his sig. It is a girl been knocked down by a man. Probably quite painful for her. If someone posted that of my girlfriend I'd track their IP and visit them.

03-22-2008, 08:28 PM	#38 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	"What am I then?" The whole carriage hushed. Smith looked him up and down. "You're a **** pal," he said. ^ This bit is what I had in mind.

03-23-2008, 01:38 AM	#39 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	Hmmm ...Talented? Thats' a tough question to answer. I'd say that if you look at Floyd's Discography as a whole You'll see more of Gilmore's influence than any other band members. Roger Waters Is a decent bass player, an OK singer, and a good songwriter, but I think he's eclipsed by Gilmore in all three of those areas (so what if Waters pretty much wrote The Wall. Its a psychotherapy session put to music, and one of the most overrated pieces of music in rock n' roll history). I'm sure Barrett was very talented, but its hard to know whether you're crediting his genius or his neurosis when talking about him, and although his influence got the ball rolling, the band quickly evolved into an entirely different musical entity. I think Gilmour gets it for me.