Prog Debate (dance, house, indie, pop, rock)

Dying at a Desk · 01-18-2008, 05:05 PM

After reading the very lengthy, yet enlightening "education" thread, I began to wonder....Can prog have the same mainstream appeal that it once had in the 60s & 70s?? It seems difficult to at times improbable to see that happening, even with my boys Coheed at the forefront of the 'movement' with great success.

Just wondering what it would take for it to happen, if at all possible.

Rainard Jalen · 01-18-2008, 05:11 PM

It won't ever happen (at least certainly not in the foreseeable future). It isn't any longer a viable commercial format. It has no place in the mainstream.

riseagainstrocks · 01-18-2008, 07:11 PM

The Mars Volta are hardly "progressive" imo. I'd call them pretentious (all though to be fair, I love the title track on Frances the Mute).

And I don't think progressive music will become mainstream again in the near future. The only Coheed songs to get any sort of media attention are the ones with pop hooks (A Favor House Atlantic, Running Free, The Suffering, etc.).

As time goes on it seems that music is getting better but it's being appreciated by fewer and fewer people. My post including the Cynic video being a prime example.

ProggyMan · 01-18-2008, 10:29 PM

Porcupine Tree has hit the top 10 in a few smaller countries. Radiohead is huge everywhere.

lucylamppost · 01-18-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

And I don't think progressive music will become mainstream again in the near future. The only Coheed songs to get any sort of media attention are the ones with pop hooks (A Favor House Atlantic, Running Free, The Suffering, etc.). .

I agree with that , i bet with in the next 2 years it will be very mainstream. Its ust going in a cycle like music always dose people are going to get tired of todays mainstream music night now is very pop/dance and trash(y) and very fast.

It will get very tried soon You guys may not think that the Mars Volta is not progressive but its has shares some similarities. and they are very main stream.

what I am sayng is soon the greater public will come to there senses on what they think "good" music is

Seltzer · 01-19-2008, 12:01 AM

It's unlikely that it'll ever have the same appeal. Though bands like Porcupine Tree could feasibly appeal to a more mainstream audience.

I think that prog's greatest break into the mainstream would probably be through prog which appeals to alt/indie fans... there are already a fair few bands like this; i.e. Dredg, Radiohead, Mars Volta, Muse (sort of)...

Rainard Jalen · 01-19-2008, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Porcupine Tree has hit the top 10 in a few smaller countries. Radiohead is huge everywhere.

Oh c'mon, for heaven's sake, Radiohead aren't prog!

"Prog" is not some banner term that covers any sort of experimental/arty rock music.

ProggyMan · 01-19-2008, 04:32 PM

Yes it is. How would you define Prog?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-19-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Yes it is. How would you define Prog?

Well under your definition The Velvet Underground are a prog band.

Lizzie · 01-19-2008, 05:47 PM

No way would i call Radiohead a prog band, for they aren't at all

01-18-2008, 05:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dying at a Desk Groupie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1	Prog Debate After reading the very lengthy, yet enlightening "education" thread, I began to wonder....Can prog have the same mainstream appeal that it once had in the 60s & 70s?? It seems difficult to at times improbable to see that happening, even with my boys Coheed at the forefront of the 'movement' with great success. Just wondering what it would take for it to happen, if at all possible.

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riseagainstrocks Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DC Posts: 3,320	The Mars Volta are hardly "progressive" imo. I'd call them pretentious (all though to be fair, I love the title track on Frances the Mute). And I don't think progressive music will become mainstream again in the near future. The only Coheed songs to get any sort of media attention are the ones with pop hooks (A Favor House Atlantic, Running Free, The Suffering, etc.). As time goes on it seems that music is getting better but it's being appreciated by fewer and fewer people. My post including the Cynic video being a prime example. __________________ One note timeless, came out of nowhere...

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Seltzer Fish in the percolator! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hobbit Land NZ Posts: 2,870	It's unlikely that it'll ever have the same appeal. Though bands like Porcupine Tree could feasibly appeal to a more mainstream audience. I think that prog's greatest break into the mainstream would probably be through prog which appeals to alt/indie fans... there are already a fair few bands like this; i.e. Dredg, Radiohead, Mars Volta, Muse (sort of)... __________________ In the Court of King Crimson \| Last.fm \| RYM

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Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,221	It won't ever happen (at least certainly not in the foreseeable future). It isn't any longer a viable commercial format. It has no place in the mainstream.

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ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,964	Porcupine Tree has hit the top 10 in a few smaller countries. Radiohead is huge everywhere.

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