Frank Zappa Appreciation Thread

[Lisnaholic]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Then we'd have to split the douchebag thread into Zappa is a douche because of x and Zappa is a douche because of y, forever fracturing the conversation to the point of each member getting their own Zappa thread.

I'd like a thread of "Zappa Fans Who Disagree With Terrapin's Take On Meaning" please. Because I'm not remotely buying into this idea:-

Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

Meaning is subjective. It depends on what an individual has in mind, how the individual is thinking about the term in question. There's no necessary way to think about a term, positive, negative, or whatever.

"Five disgusting cockroaches" Does this term depend on what an individual has in mind? How can it mean anything except a precise number of insects that the speaker dislikes? If an individual has "three nice ponies" in mind, that's a misinterpretation; it's not, imo, an equally valid, subjective way to think about the term "five disgusting cockroaches".
(Examples of "five" not meaning 5 and "disgusting" used in a way that is not negatively judgemental would be appreciated, plus, for good measure, a subjective meaning for cockroach that is significantly different from what I'll find if I google "cockroach".)
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I'd rather talk about the music too so I'll just remind everyone of how underrated Läther is. I'd still call myself a fan despite my criticisms.

I'm guilty of contributing to this underratement. I never listen to Läther, and I can't remember why.