Frank Zappa Appreciation Thread

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Zappa (the artist/cultural figure)is so incredibly pretentious while simultaneously being an extraordinarily gifted composer/Musician/what have you

that it's the worst, because the genius of the music tricks people into thinking the process or any of the ideas surrounding it are worth a ****

Extraordinarily gifted and genius while pretentious with ideas that aren't worth a **** ? That combination doesn't seem to cohere.

Originally Posted by Guybrush

It's not the focus on sex. Rather, it's the contempt and condescension coupled with it. At worst, you could make a case for rapey, like when saying that women will be funked in the ass (which is fine) and have little say in the matter (which is not okay).

I don't see how you're not reading "contempt and condescension" into it though.

Re "Broken Hearts" I don't think you're even understanding that song or the lyrics at all. That whole last section simply grows in a word-play way out of "Well, ladies you can be an @$$hole too; You might pretend you ain't got one on the bottom of you, But don't fool yerself girl," where as was usually par for the course, the "ram it up your poop shoot" was probably an inside joke about something someone in the band or on the crew said. That was the source of a lot of Zappa's lyrics.