Thank you, I feel the same way. It's sad to hear someone worship Maynard, when Jones is the true genius. Yeah, Maynard has a few side projects (including his own vineyard :confused:), but I honestly don't understand all the hype about Puscifer or A Perfect Circle.

You're right - Tool isn't the best I've ever heard, either. I don't know what the best I've ever heard is because I'm still trying to expand more and more. I, too, identify with them personally in a way that is quite rare, but that's not to say I've never felt this way from listening to other musicians.

Although they do have qualities about them that can be found elsewhere, I think other bands will never (including A Perfect Circle) will never be able to produce that classic Tool atmosphere. Not just at their live shows, but when their music is played, it brings with it a completely different energy.

I identify most with their lyrics. I'm unsure of who writes them, but I hope its a collective project; however, something as personal as Wings for Marie Pt. 1, Prison Sex, and 10,000 Days would probably be written alone. I can shamelessly say the first time I listened to Parabol and Parabola while reading the lyrics, I cried. This repeated with Lateralus and The Patient. I guess I'm just an emotional little fucker.

I'm as staunch a Tool fan as anyone,and i can say without shame that 10KD sucked.Hard.They had better make up for it on the new album.I'll be happy with Lateralus 2.

I guess I can see how you can say that if we compare 10,000 Days to the other albums, but how many times did you listen to it? Personally, with the lyrics taken into account, I do believe that 10,000 Days is the "Lateralus II." Sure, "The Pot" was not the most impressive song to debut their album with, but what about "Right in Two"? "Vicarious"? I liked Lateralus better, too, but it 10,000 Days has its share of brilliance.

Tool is intelligent music. Dummies don't get it. Sure, some intelligent people don't like it, but dummies just don't get it.

Can't wait to see them live! Summer tour dates to be announced... I hope they come to New Zealand!

LOL yeah, it would be fairly cool to see them live. they're easily one of my favorite bands.

I'm sure they won't be performing too far from where you are DM.

Definitely one of my favourites too. I can't get closure on them. Like, some bands and albums I'll get over when I know the lyrics and can finger-drum the sound haha but Tool, I discover something new everytime I listen to an album. I guess that's why I like them so much. They don't bore me.

Has anyone heard much of Puscifer? I've only heard a couple of tracks and... um... I'm undecided I guess.

I know all their songs on bass. they throw in all the wierd time sigs and Bass power chords. Certifiably impossible to slap LOL...:usehead:

I may be coming in to this thread WAY too late, but I was wondering what is going on with A Perfect Circle... are there any new recordings / albums in the pipelines / on the horizon...

I listened to V for Vagina a couple of times when it came out, and I can't say I was impressed. Maybe I need to listen to it again, but I don't see what the hype is.

they're a little too techno for me. but as anything with mr. Keenan goes, I like the art lol