Can't Have Prog Without Keyboards: A Discussion
 

No, I just reply to everything. Can't have prog without keyboards.

Yeah you're right about keyboards because following a genre cliche is so progressive.

That's like saying you shouldn't use an acoustic guitar in folk because it's cliche. Some things are cliche for a reason.

Ever heard of Pete Seeger?

Ever heard of all the thousand's of other folk artists...

Plenty use banjos and ukuleles. In addition to that, folk isn't about being different or progressive. Prog is, hence the name. You're comparing apples to oranges here.

How can this thread possibly be derailed?

I'll split it into a separate thread srry.

Many prog bands use keyboards, but they don't all use keyboards in the same way. Its pretty dumb to call it a cliched genre because of heavy emphasis on a certain instrument. Thats like calling rock cliched for the heavy use of guitar, or folk because of the use of acoustics, or jazz for the use of brass instruments.

The reason prog bands commonly use keyboards is because prog bands like tone variety, and a good synthesizer and a good sampler offer a lot more tone variety than a guitar. Any techno fan will tell you that.

Exactly. Listen to Spirit Of The Radio for keyboardy goodness.

Having a keyboard isn't a requirement to being progressive though, which is what I was saying. Proggy was saying the opposite.

Yeah that is true, KC for example.

I didn't mean that you flat-out can't have prog without keyboards, just that it's a hallmark of progressive rock.

So. Why did this warrant its own thread again?

To avoid spamming someones song.

Because instead of just deleting the off-topic posts Crowquill moved them to a new thread.

Uh, thats not what you said when you said "Can't have prog without keyboards." I see nothing else there that even implies you thought otherwise and don't give me that joking crap because you tried to pass this off as criticism.

I see this as a valuable discussion and didn't want to keep derailing the new guys thread.

I never said it was a joke. I'm saying that I think it's pretty obvious that I don't think that you have to have keyboards to be progressive.

Then why did you tell him you couldn't have prog without keyboards and therefore his song idea was 'bad'?

Because I thought the lyrics were too cliched and that prog usually has more than 3 instruments.

He didn't even post any lyrics and to back up why you thought it was bad you replied "Can't have prog without keyboards." In addition to that what about Rush and the Fall of Troy?

They have keyboards...What are you saying? I meant the idea behind his lyrics.

I don't listen to Rush but I assumed since they had three members they had three instruments, however the Fall of Troy still only has three instruments so point remains.

The majority of lyrics are cliche, prog is full of cliche lyricists and if they're fun lyrics then who cares?

Don't drag my actual criticism here,and Geddy Lee sings, plays bass and keyboards. I guess I'm wrong on TFOT. Haven't been into them recently.