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.V. 05-05-2007 02:22 PM

Progressive metal anyone?
 
there has to be other progressive metal fans here.
if so feel free to list favorite bands, post links, or whatever.
good prog bands i like are
pain of salvation, opeth, symphony x, kamelot, adagio, anathema, riverside, OSI, tool, ayreon, and orphaned land, among others. i might have links if you need them, just request and ill see.

InvokeTheDarkAge 05-05-2007 09:41 PM

hell yes

Dream Theater, Opeth, Death (latter years), Rush, Orphaned Land, Cynic, Atheist, Edge of Sanity

Laces Out Dan! 05-05-2007 10:16 PM

Symphony X
Opeth
Devin Townsend
Pain of Salvation


.V. Check out Devin Townsend..i have a link for an upload in the thread i made about him.

Inuzuka Skysword 05-06-2007 11:29 AM

Dream Theater, Opeth, Death, and a bunch of others I cannot think of at the moment.

Oh and Rush are not at all Metal. They are Prog rock.

.V. 05-06-2007 01:51 PM

les, yeah i should check it out, i havent listened to really any of devin townsend for some reason. oh and nice avatar. i listen to mos def too haha

Laces Out Dan! 05-06-2007 01:53 PM

http://www.musicbanter.com/rock-meta...-townsend.html
Check it.

.V. 05-06-2007 02:00 PM

*downloads*

Muzak 05-06-2007 02:01 PM

Spiral Architect

InvokeTheDarkAge 05-06-2007 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword (Post 364649)
Oh and Rush are not at all Metal. They are Prog rock.

still kickass though, they have had quite the influence on many of the 80s and 90s progressive metal bands

Laces Out Dan! 05-06-2007 11:24 PM

The new Symphony X leaked today...first album since The Odyssey which was 2002.

.V. 05-07-2007 04:57 PM

^ havent heard anything about the new one yet.
the oddysey was decent though

egglap 05-08-2007 04:45 PM

Listen to bands like:

KING CRIMSON
HAWKWIND
BARCLAY JAMES HARVEST
YES

for a great introduction to some of the originators..and of course..PINK FLOYD (links available).

.V. 05-08-2007 07:09 PM

i havent heard barely any king crimson actually. i remember opeth citing them as an influence though i think

Inuzuka Skysword 05-08-2007 08:29 PM

TRhey were the first Prog ROCK band. This person is obviously looking for metal.

Seltzer 05-09-2007 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by .V. (Post 365470)
i havent heard barely any king crimson actually. i remember opeth citing them as an influence though i think

King Crimson is one of my favourite bands ever, but they're not prog metal (you probably knew that already). As far as influences go, Camel (an equally awesome prog rock band and another of my fav ever) is probably the biggest. In fact, Barclay James Harvest is an influence too.

Anyway... this is mainly straight prog metal. Of course there's prog death like Opeth, prog thrash like Mekong Delta, prog folk like Tyr etc...

Pain of Salvation
Spiral Architect
Ephel Duath
Ayreon
Nevermore
Cynic
Alarum
Devin Townsend
Spastic Ink
Savatage
Dream Theater / LTE
Peccatum
Maudlin of the Well
Symphony X
Sun Caged

.V. 05-09-2007 04:17 PM

seltzer u have excellent taste, most of which mirrors my own :]

lucifer_sam 08-12-2008 11:02 PM

Few members are expressing some growing interest in this, thought it might be a good topic for discussion.

What would people suggest to be "staples" of progressive metal?

boo boo 08-13-2008 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword (Post 365504)
TRhey were the first Prog ROCK band. This person is obviously looking for metal.

Yeah but they were also proto metal.

Listen to Larks Tongue in Aspic 2 and tell me it dosen't sound metal, Fripp even said he considered KC to be "metal with a brain".

austinsaysmeow 08-13-2008 11:14 AM

would it be right to say that between the buried and me and the dillenger escape plan were porgressive?

boo boo 08-13-2008 11:19 AM

BTBAM have some prog influences (they did a cover Three of a Perfect Pair) but certainly I wouldn't call them prog.

Demonoid 09-11-2008 06:32 PM

I quite like progressive metal.
Seltzer's list is excellent.
I would especially recommend Pain of Salvation, Spiral Architect, Devin Townsend, Spastic Ink(these guys are crazy) & Maudlin of the Well. Actually, F*ck it and listen to them all :D

Anyways, just a few more suggestions-

Fates Warning - A Pleasant Shade of Grey
Choosing between this and Parallels is so damn annoying. Epic and awesome.

Psychotic Waltz - A Social Grace
Weird, obscure, complex stuff. The vocals add even more to the weirdness. Definitely something i don't come across very often.

Shadow Gallery - Tyranny
An amazing concept album with superb melodies, mindblowing guitar work(and i really mean it) backed with excellent keyboards. Sounds even a little bit power-metallish at times, but tbh, I think that's a good thing here.

Trollheart 10-14-2008 06:34 AM

I have to say I consider Kamelot the kings of progmetal, but I also love Shadow Gallery, Threshold, Silent Edge, Epica, Adagio, Fairyland, Labyrinth, LAcuna Coil and a hundred others BUT I hate Pain of Salvation --- sorry, I just cannot get into them.
PS I hate "death vocals", not that that refers back to PoS, but it does leave both Haggard and Opeth out for me...

USMCJDKING 10-16-2008 07:49 PM

Stick to your Guns.

squareOne 10-18-2008 06:40 PM

Dream Theater from Images and Words to Six Degrees is the definition of prog metal. Most prog metal bands are just trying to replicate what Dream Theater did.

Pain of Salvation, however, is amazing. One of the most creative and emotion-inducing bands I've ever heard. I wouldn't even label them as prog metal, they're completely their own thing.

jackhammer 10-18-2008 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by squareOne (Post 532395)
Dream Theater from Images and Words to Six Degrees is the definition of prog metal. Most prog metal bands are just trying to replicate what Dream Theater did.

Pain of Salvation, however, is amazing. One of the most creative and emotion-inducing bands I've ever heard. I wouldn't even label them as prog metal, they're completely their own thing.

Dream Theatre are not well liked on these forums. It could be because they are boring as fuck but that's a narrow minded view...























































although I do agree.

jackhammer 10-18-2008 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonoid (Post 517371)
I quite like progressive metal.
Seltzer's list is excellent.
I would especially recommend Pain of Salvation, Spiral Architect, Devin Townsend, Spastic Ink(these guys are crazy) & Maudlin of the Well. Actually, F*ck it and listen to them all :D

Anyways, just a few more suggestions-

Fates Warning - A Pleasant Shade of Grey
Choosing between this and Parallels is so damn annoying. Epic and awesome.

Psychotic Waltz - A Social Grace
Weird, obscure, complex stuff. The vocals add even more to the weirdness. Definitely something i don't come across very often.

Strange that you mention the Psychotic Waltz album. I recieved that in the post this morning from my friend in Germany.

Add 'Anacrusis' to this list.

Demonoid 10-18-2008 07:03 PM

Well, It's definitely damn weird. You might even dislike it on the first listen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by squareOne (Post 532395)
Pain of Salvation, however, is amazing. One of the most creative and emotion-inducing bands I've ever heard. I wouldn't even label them as prog metal, they're completely their own thing.

Right on! Emotions and Progressive is how I would describe them as well. The vocals more or less make or break the band :cool:

Raust 10-19-2008 01:49 PM

I love progressive metal. One of favorite bands of all time is Dream Theater, I also enjoy Queensryche and Pain of Salvation.

Eggman 10-19-2008 02:47 PM

Would recent Porcupine Tree be considered progressive metal?

Alfred 10-19-2008 04:07 PM

Some of it, though they're more based in simply rock.

Opeth is the only prog metal band that I'm into really.

Eggman 10-19-2008 04:13 PM

What album by Opeth would you recommend most?

Alfred 10-19-2008 04:29 PM

I like Watershed the best, but Ghost Reveries and Blackwater Park are good as well.

Meph1986 10-19-2008 05:14 PM

Still Life is good too.

Certif1ed 09-03-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 532810)
Some of it, though they're more based in simply rock.

Opeth is the only prog metal band that I'm into really.

All Prog Metal bands with very, very few exceptions are based on simple rock constructions and are fundamentally no more complex than Nickelback - and that includes Opeth, who sound more than a bit like Nickelback on their latest album, Watershed, to my ears.

It is not true to say that Prog Metal is a blend of Prog and Metal - this myth needs stamping on (as if old school Proggers didn't know this already in their hearts!), because generations are growing up not understanding what Prog was really about.

The term "virtuosic" appears with depressing frequency to describe music that uses often remarkable virtuosic playing techniques to create music that is, from a compositional point of view, almost entirely unremarkable - which contrasts completely with the likes of Gentle Giant.

Prog is not about lots of scale practice, owning a Mellotron or sounding a bit like Pink Floyd (or allegedly Camel, in the case of Opeth).

I know from past experience how sensitive Prog Metal fans can be, so let's clear the air immediately by saying that this post is emphatically NOT a bashing of any band (including Opeth!), merely a pointing out of home truths.

Astronomer 09-03-2009 06:22 PM

Still Life and Watershed are my favourites from Opeth.

jackhammer 09-03-2009 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 729290)
Still Life and Watershed are my favourites from Opeth.

I really couldn't get into Watershed at all. Ghost Reveries and Blackwater Park are my favourites but generally their whole output is superb. The juxtaposition of brutal riffing and ambient acoustic work makes them one of my favourite bands.

Seltzer 09-04-2009 10:07 AM

Despite my earlier post from a couple of years ago when I was quite into metal, I'm generally not a fan of prog metal and I find that it tends to completely miss the point of what prog rock is about. Opeth is one of the few bands that grasp it... I'd say Morningrise is my favourite of theirs.

I still have time for bands like Arcturus, Meshuggah, Pain of Salvation, Maudlin of the Well, Slough Feg and Devin Townsend who push the envelope. And the prog/tech twists on other metal genres like death/thrash tend to go down well - I've always been a fan of bands like Coroner, Mekong Delta, Voivod, Artillery, Lykathea Aflame, Gorguts and Demilich.

ziren 09-04-2009 10:19 AM

Queensryche would be ok, but vocals makes me want to go deaf
And about Opeth, it enters my top 3bands at all. Morningrise and Still life are my favorite albums

LoathsomePete 09-04-2009 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seltzer (Post 729623)
Despite my earlier post from a couple of years ago when I was quite into metal, I'm generally not a fan of prog metal and I find that it tends to completely miss the point of what prog rock is about. Opeth is one of the few bands that grasp it... I'd say Morningrise is my favourite of theirs.

I still have time for bands like Arcturus, Meshuggah, Pain of Salvation, Maudlin of the Well, Slough Feg and Devin Townsend who push the envelope. And the prog/tech twists on other metal genres like death/thrash tend to go down well - I've always been a fan of bands like Coroner, Mekong Delta, Voivod, Artillery, Lykathea Aflame, Gorguts and Demilich.

Seltzer have you heard the new Slough Feg album yet?

Seltzer 09-04-2009 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 729631)
Seltzer have you heard the new Slough Feg album yet?

I can't say I have. Have you got it?


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