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analogdemon 07-15-2006 01:50 PM

The Moody Blues
 
Because, IMO, they're the second greatest band in the world behind the Beach Boys.

Seriously, these guys are absolutely amazing. Their "core seven" albums contain some of the best rock ever put to tape. Their second album Days of Future Passed is the textbook for how to create a symphonic, orchestral soundscape in the context of a rock 'n' roll record.

These guys were full of great musical ideas in the late 1960s and early 1970s, and still are today. Their newer records, while not as epic as say In Search of the Lost Chord or Seventh Sojourn, are still better than a lot of rock 'n' roll coming out today.

In addition to still being a recording act, they're also still a legitimate touring act with 3 out of 5 "classic" members. Not only that, but their shows are still popular and their shows aren't just "oldies shows". Read the reviews of their concerts...these guys still have it 40 years after the release of their first album.

If you've never got into the Moody Blues, start with Days of Future Passed and work sequentially through the discography. For those of you who know the Moodies' music, let's hear the love.

boo boo 07-15-2006 09:13 PM

Ridiculously underated, i consider Days Of Future Past to be one of the most innovative and important albums of the 60s, i remember when Rolling Stone left it off my list and how pissed off i was.

EDIT: Sorry i said "overrated", i meant "underrated", twas a nasty typo, tis fixed now.

analogdemon 07-16-2006 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Days Of Future Past to be one of the most innovative and important albums of the 60s

That's a hard point to argue, no doubt. What's really funny is that it was never supposed to be released. Deram Records wanted the Moody Blues to record an album to demonstrate stereo sound (keep in mind that stereo didn't take off in the UK until around 1970) in exchange for the record company forgiving the band's debt (they owed the record label several thousand quid in advances).

The problem was, after all was said and done, Deram had spent so much money on this demonstration record that they decided to release it to try and recoup some of their costs. haha

boo boo 07-16-2006 08:44 AM

I heard about that, but it also made a great showcase for the bands songwriting talents.

DreamTheater 07-20-2010 11:08 PM

Moody Blues
 
Just heard the song "Nights In White Satin" today and I love it. I love the Broadway play feel the chorus has, and I love the epilogue at the end of the song. You don't hear much music like that anymore. If anybody knows of any other good songs by this band let me know!

boo boo 07-22-2010 05:35 AM

Days of Future Past is my candidate for being the first true progressive rock album.

Some point to the Procol Harum debut released a few months earlier which is a great album and an influence on prog but it doesn't really sound that proggy and is more like a fusion of R&B and baroque pop.

Days of Future Past on the other hand is the true bridge between psychedelia and prog. In terms of the concept, the themes, the atmospheric feel, the song structures, the arrangements and most importantly the use of symphonic and classical elements. You can hear the clear influence it had on King Crimson, Genesis, Yes and others.

While they never surpassed DOFP or ever showed as much experimental ambition again, they still put out some solid albums in the late 60s and early 70s and don't get as much credit and respect as they deserve.

Dimebagdaryl 07-22-2010 06:25 AM

hayward is incredible love his vocals
you should check out hayward live in san juan capistrano
here is some moody blues i recorded

kool_cat 09-25-2010 11:42 AM

I recently discovered this band, my favourite songs are (in no particular order) :

Nights In White Satin
Gimme' A Little Something
In My World
Candle Of Life
I Don't Mind
Melancholy Man
This Is My House (But Nobody Calls)
Boulevard de la Madelaine

starrynight 04-27-2011 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 904276)
While they never surpassed DOFP or ever showed as much experimental ambition again, they still put out some solid albums in the late 60s and early 70s and don't get as much credit and respect as they deserve.

Oh I think they did surpass it with A Question of Balance and On the Threshold of a Dream. Days of Future Past has a couple of standout songs at least but the orchestral interludes by Peter Knight I don't like so much.

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 262088)
I heard about that, but it also made a great showcase for the bands songwriting talents.

Not as much as on some later albums because of all those orchestral sections.

TockTockTock 11-05-2011 09:48 PM

Bump...

They're a great balance between catchiness and complexity, and frankly, I'm a bit astonished that there has only been eight comments made on this thread (well... nine, counting my own).

On another note, I prefer Days of Future Past over Pet Sounds... does that make me a bad person? :laughing:

Electrophonic Tonic 11-06-2011 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat (Post 1116504)

On another note, I prefer Days of Future Past over Pet Sounds... does that make me a bad person? :laughing:

Only if you think 'On the Threshold of the Dream' is the Moody's best album :laughing:

killcreek 11-09-2011 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 904276)
Days of Future Past is my candidate for being the first true progressive rock album.

Some point to the Procol Harum debut released a few months earlier which is a great album and an influence on prog but it doesn't really sound that proggy and is more like a fusion of R&B and baroque pop.

Days of Future Past on the other hand is the true bridge between psychedelia and prog. In terms of the concept, the themes, the atmospheric feel, the song structures, the arrangements and most importantly the use of symphonic and classical elements. You can hear the clear influence it had on King Crimson, Genesis, Yes and others.

While they never surpassed DOFP or ever showed as much experimental ambition again, they still put out some solid albums in the late 60s and early 70s and don't get as much credit and respect as they deserve.

what about freak out by frank zappa? (1966)

almauro 11-10-2011 07:11 PM

^ Too bad boo boo's not here to give you his explanation. IMO, I never thought of Freak Out as Prog Rock, simply because the first half was very good parodies with fairly conventional song structures, and he second half was so far out there, that I always considered it avant garde. But is was a huge influence on Krautrock.

Sneer 11-10-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat (Post 1116504)


On another note, I prefer Days of Future Past over Pet Sounds... does that make me a bad person? :laughing:

Not at all, I concur.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 11-11-2011 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by almauro (Post 1118069)
^ Too bad boo boo's not here to give you his explanation. IMO, I never thought of Freak Out as Prog Rock, simply because the first half was very good parodies with fairly conventional song structures, and he second half was so far out there, that I always considered it avant garde. But is was a huge influence on Krautrock.

I personally felt Freak Out! was very mediocre. Apart from 'Brain Police', 'Help I'm a Rock', and 'The Return of the Son of Monster Magnet' the album is largely average... and what's with the freaking kazoo sounding solo every song?

Scarlett O'Hara 11-11-2011 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat (Post 1116504)
Bump...

They're a great balance between catchiness and complexity, and frankly, I'm a bit astonished that there has only been eight comments made on this thread (well... nine, counting my own).

On another note, I prefer Days of Future Past over Pet Sounds... does that make me a bad person? :laughing:

No! I love them too, thanks for the bump. :)

Lisnaholic 12-02-2011 08:35 PM

I think Days Of Future Past was their best album by far;Tuesday Afternoon and Twilight Time are wonderful tracks that seem to conjure up the dreamy afternoons of childhood. The blending of orchestra and rock band is handled very well too.
What a pity that the Moodies put those rather laughable spoken-word bits on their albums, though; I think they singlehandedly ensured that Progressive Rock would forever carry the "pretentious" label, with which it is so often branded.

starrynight 12-11-2011 05:32 PM

I don't like the orchestral segments of Days of Future Past, sounds too much like easy listening music to me.

Best album for me is A Question of Balance, followed by On the Threshold of a Dream.

*JR* 12-23-2011 08:00 PM

I love them, especially these 2 masterpieces. I sometimes call the first one their "magnum opus". Justin Hayward :bowdown: is terribly unappreciated, compared to some of his contemporaries.




Lisnaholic 02-03-2012 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by starrynight (Post 1131254)
I don't like the orchestral segments of Days of Future Past, sounds too much like easy listening music to me. Best album for me is A Question of Balance, followed by On the Threshold of a Dream.

^ Yes, I guess they do cross that line sometimes on Days of Future Passed, starrynight, but that album was probably their most innovative moment.
There`s some good music, but nothing innovative about Balance or Threshold; more a case of "Don`t mess with the formula", as Brian Wilson`s money-minded Dad used to tell BW.

starrynight 02-03-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1149657)
^ Yes, I guess they do cross that line sometimes on Days of Future Passed, starrynight, but that album was probably their most innovative moment.
There`s some good music, but nothing innovative about Balance or Threshold; more a case of "Don`t mess with the formula", as Brian Wilson`s money-minded Dad used to tell BW.

Well as I've said here a few times already I don't care if something is seen as innovative or not. One reason is that something might be innovative only if looked at in a narrow context, and my other reason is that if I don't think it is good music I still won't like it anyway. I still adore Tuesday Afternoon and Nights in White Satin from that album. But the other music just doesn't fit that well anyway to me and could easily have been taken from a bland film soundtrack.

And as for formulas, well all music has formulas but what matters is what is done with the formula that is used (how creative someone is). And I wouldn't accept they were just looking to make money with later albums, indeed I think they put quite different sounding songs on the same album. For instance on Threshold you have the country sounding Send Me No Wine, a more rnb rocker To Share Our Love and a progressive ballad Have You Heard and Question has the folk-like Minstrel's Song. Some of their later albums can sound a bit too dependant on production effects for me, but I think there is good songwriting on those two.

Lisnaholic 02-04-2012 09:16 AM

^ Sorry, starrynight, I shouldn`t have been so dismissive about Threshold and Question; thinking about it, what Brian Wilson might have heard from his Dad really has no relevence at all to what the Moody Blues were doing.

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Originally Posted by starrynight (Post 1149664)
Well as I've said here a few times already I don't care if something is seen as innovative or not. One reason is that something might be innovative only if looked at in a narrow context, and my other reason is that if I don't think it is good music I still won't like it anyway. I still adore Tuesday Afternoon and Nights in White Satin from that album. But the other music just doesn't fit that well anyway to me and could easily have been taken from a bland film soundtrack.

^ In fact, this is how I usually feel about a piece of music, too. The important question is "Does this music sound good to me today?", not "Should I like this because it is historically significant ?"

Anyway, here are two Moody Blues tracks that always sound good to me. I wonder what your verdict is on them :-




Howard the Duck 02-04-2012 09:23 AM

i don't have an opinion in either direction strongly about them

i mean, they're just there

i put on their "classic" albums sometimes, but i don't find anything particularly great about any of them

now, Procol Harum, on the other hand, that was a terrif 60s proto-prog band

Lisnaholic 02-04-2012 09:31 AM

When Procul were good, they were good, but I always felt that for every song that hit the target, there were at least two that didn`t. Also, they never really broke out of the 3-min pop song format - or did they ?

Howard the Duck 02-04-2012 09:48 AM

there were some songs reaching five minutes on their "classic" albums

on their comeback album, The Prodigal Stranger, most songs are longer than 5 minutes

Unknown Soldier 02-04-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1150002)
i don't have an opinion in either direction strongly about them

i mean, they're just there

i put on their "classic" albums sometimes, but i don't find anything particularly great about any of them

now, Procol Harum, on the other hand, that was a terrif 60s proto-prog band

This, Procul Harum were far more interesting than the Moody Blues in general, but I've been meaning to listen to the classic Moody Blues albums again (haven't listened to them in years)

starrynight 02-05-2012 09:57 AM

I can't say Procol Harum have ever done as much for me as The Moody Blues who wrote some classic melodies and had a sound all of their own, partly created by their use of the mellotron. Part of that sound was Justin Hayward's autumnal voice which can be heard on the two songs above (which of course I like).

Unknown Soldier 02-07-2012 02:54 AM

One of the best ever Moody Blues tunes from In Search of the Lost Chord


The Moody Blues - Legend of a mind - YouTube

Unknown Soldier 02-07-2012 02:58 AM

and equally as good.


The Moody Blues - House Of Four Doors - YouTube

starrynight 02-07-2012 03:35 AM

House of Four Doors isn't one of their best melodies for me, the chorus doesn't grab me. They did plenty of good songs though.


One of the things I like about their music is that there is an archaic sound to them but instead of making it dated it makes it more timeless. I think it's because the basis of it is the feeling of the music and not superficial elements like using archaic instruments. It feels from some deep ancestral past but in a very undefined way and so can still connect to us.

Unknown Soldier 02-07-2012 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by starrynight (Post 1151124)
House of Four Doors isn't one of their best melodies for me, the chorus doesn't grab me. They did plenty of good songs though.


One of the things I like about their music is that there is an archaic sound to them but instead of making it dated it makes it more timeless. I think it's because the basis of it is the feeling of the music and not superficial elements like using archaic instruments. It feels from some deep ancestral past but in a very undefined way and so can still connect to us.

Their music is definitely based around feeling and unconventional instruments, which gives them a somewaht timeless feel. Their influence on prog rock I'd say has a lot to do with this. They certainly belong in any Cosmic best albums list

onewhoknowsbetter 02-07-2012 09:47 AM

At least get his name right
 
His name is Justin HayWARD, not HayWOOD ! And his music is unique and timeless and fabulous. Not to mention his voice is gorgeous !

Unknown Soldier 02-07-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhoknowsbetter (Post 1151199)
His name is Justin HayWARD, not HayWOOD !

We do know that.

Janszoon 02-07-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhoknowsbetter (Post 1151199)
His name is Justin HayWARD, not HayWOOD ! And his music is unique and timeless and fabulous. Not to mention his voice is gorgeous !

Yeah, I love Jason Hayward.

onewhoknowsbetter 02-07-2012 10:48 AM

Sooooo funny. har har

an original poster someplace on here didn't know that, sorry if I posted on the wrong thread

Unknown Soldier 02-08-2012 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1150006)
When Procul were good, they were good, but I always felt that for every song that hit the target, there were at least two that didn`t. Also, they never really broke out of the 3-min pop song format - or did they ?

In general most of their songs were just 3 and 4 mins but they helped set the precedent for long progressive suites with this song on their second album in 1968.


Procol Harum "In Held 'Twas In I" (Part 1) - YouTube

Unknown Soldier 02-08-2012 07:11 AM

and part 2.


Procol Harum "In Held 'Twas In I" (Part 2) - YouTube

Oig 02-12-2012 08:12 AM

The Moody Blues - Melancholy Man, how I love this song! :D

Moodiesfan 11-16-2012 10:20 PM

Such a great band. Days of Future Past is probably my favorite but they have many great cd's. In Search of the Lost Chord, To Our Children's Children's Children, Every Good Boy Deserves Favour, Seventh Sojourn... They are a band of many very good songs but only a few radio hits. To cut it down to just a 5 to 10 songs is hard.

tojamm 11-18-2012 08:27 AM

I really like "The other side of life". I'm wondering what your opinion about that album is.

Would be interesting to know.


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